2021-02-04 Windward Exh B Kirpal Meditation and Ecological Center SPP-20-000220

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DICKIE CLARK: I swear I pushed it—" I'm totally willing to go to mediation and do understand this is very costly but I also wanted instead of my defense of pursuing this I want to point out that again that Leonard Sussman, KMEC has been operating his business illegally for over ten (10) years and he hasn't during that period of time attempted to comply with any of the County's regulations until just recently when he got exposed perhaps is the word I'm not sure if that's the right word by somebody else and the authorities were drawn in. If somebody had done something about that complaint before the 2018 lava flow, they would have seen the degree to which he has expanded his business and has been running it. I mean any of you have had the opportunity to look at his website its beautiful it really is I cannot contest that at all. His got a lovely little sweet place there however, he is been operating completely against or with flagrant, disregard with the law all these years and is only responding and reacting to because his been called on by authorities. So, yes just to answer your question I certainly would be interested in mediation and presume that your last question I'd like to hear the answer of because obviously that has some impact on me your question to the Counsel. Thank you. CLARKSON: Malia can you clarify whether a continuation for a pre-standing hearing or an additional hearing on standing would affect her status? HALL: I honestly, I don't see why there would be we would postpone to postpone I guess is what I'm saying because technically if they are required to go to mediation and the mediation works out then the petition would be withdrawn anyways. So, it's kind of the chicken and egg situation where they move forward and if they can't agree then basically, we are ready to go and if they can then its moot. So, that would be — REPLOGLE: I would totally concur with that. CLARKSON: Thank you Malia, I have one other question, I have a separate question for the Director. The Planning Department has taken no position on the request for standing, I just wanted to make sure that our Director in his past life hadn't had any professional interaction with any of the parties to the application. KERN: Yeah, I have nothing excuse me this was never a client we have a firewall in place within the department so no, never a client, no conflict. CLARKSON: Thank you. REPLOGLE: Okay, if I'm allowed, I'd like to make a statement in regard to whether Ms. Keri should have standing or not. From what I've read and— HALL: Excuse me, point of order. REPLOGLE: Yes, ma'am. HALL: We should have a motion before discussions are had so if you are going to start to deliberate — EXHIBIT B 14