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CARR SMITH: So if I understand correctly, you are pretty much banking on the possibility of
<br /> connecting to one of the two sewers, either north or south, at some point in the future. Is that
<br /> correct, John?
<br /> PIPAN: Thank you, Commissioner Carr Smith. Not necessarily. Like I said, we are not at all
<br /> opposed to implementing and converting to septic system. The trick is not having complete
<br /> knowledge of where the certified shoreline would lie right now may make that incredibly
<br /> difficult if at all possible. So, the condition could be written such that if sufficient space, after a
<br /> certified shoreline survey is conducted, is available on the property to accommodate a septic
<br /> system, then it would be installed, give it a time frame for that, along those lines, I think those
<br /> would be acceptable terms. We don't—yeah, obviously, a sewer system is ideal, and there are
<br /> dozens and dozens and dozens of homes along this stretch of Alii Drive that have no improved
<br /> wastewater treatment at this point. And many of those homes are million-dollar homes, so it
<br /> makes sense for the environment, or the county maybe to have an improvement district. A
<br /> contribution from each owner—I don't know these, these things are probably beyond the scope
<br /> of this permit as it is, but I think, I think there could be some, some condition that should an
<br /> improvement district be established, the applicant, Mr. Arej ian, would contribute to that his fair
<br /> share to extend the sewer to his property.
<br /> CARR SMITH: You said—one more question,please.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Go ahead.
<br /> CARR SMITH: Have you guys considered using the pool area if you need to?
<br /> PIPAN: Like I said, we haven't spoken to an engineer, and this is going to be a much bigger
<br /> impact on the Special Management Area, A, decommissioning the cesspool, digging up the
<br /> driveway and parking area. I think we would have to rely on Mr. Arejian to see if he were
<br /> amenable to losing the pool—I don't know, that's a pretty big ask, but we can defer to him.
<br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Commissioner Van Pernis.
<br /> VAN PERNIS: I have a couple questions that I want to preface with the following: First, this is
<br /> the Bienenfeld house that had two residents, now they are going to have as many as 10, and I
<br /> think the sewage has to be addressed; secondly, the question is out of that 50-some properties
<br /> that the architect refers to, how many are B and Bs with 10 people coming in, not very many if
<br /> any; third, I believe from my experience being at the property that their house is up on stilts or
<br /> poles, so that the construction could go underneath if any pits or other situations for sewage; and
<br /> thirdly, I think the expense is justified in that this oceanfront B and B is going to make 20 or
<br /> 30,000 dollars a month. Is there any response?
<br /> PIPAN: Yes, I think the question as to how many of the properties around this one are used for
<br /> STVR use would be better directed to the Planning Department, and maybe they can chime in on
<br /> that. Based on my informal research from online listings, it looks like a fair number of them,
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