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maybe 10 or so, are used in a similar way, for short-term vacation rental use. And, again, many <br /> of these houses are large and expensive right along the shoreline. As for using the under-house <br /> space, I think that is kind of moving into the wrong direction with respect to the shoreline, as it <br /> gets you closer to the water. We want to keep all the wastewater treatment on the mauka side as <br /> close to Alii Drive as practical, and I think the technical difficulty is of doing any work like that <br /> underneath the house make it a little impractical. Did I answer your question? (No audible <br /> response) <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, we've had a pretty good discussion on this. Is there a motion someone <br /> would like to make? Oh, go ahead, Mr. Lindsey. <br /> LINDSEY: Just one point on the potential construction of a, you know, septic system. You <br /> the DOH does not allow septic systems under house; they require five feet from a wall line and <br /> five feet from a property line. So you are basically looking at, best case scenario, a five-foot <br /> sliver, you know, between the house and the property line,just as a practicality. <br /> VITOUSEK: Thank you. Commissioner Van Pernis. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Variances are allowed for such cases. Thank you. <br /> VITOUSEK: You know, I, for me, in kind of trying to digest what's going on, you know, <br /> obviously the best solution for the wastewater would be connection to sewer, but I like the <br /> concept of including language about contribution to a sewer district in the event that one is <br /> formed, because that would be the best solution; even including a septic would be a temporary <br /> Band-Aid that could be an added cost if an actual sewer was to come into the area. Again, you <br /> know, I ask anybody if you'd like to make a motion now that we've had a pretty good <br /> question-and-answer session with the applicant. And we can continue our discussion after a <br /> motion has been made. Commissioner Carr Smith. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you—wait, sorry, hold on. I move that the application for Use Permit <br /> number 21-000085 be approved based on the planning director's [sic] recommendation, which <br /> shall be adopted. <br /> VITOUSEK: Would itoh, can we have a second? <br /> KEALOHA: I'll go ahead and second that. <br /> VITOUSEK: Thank you. For discussion purposes, would you be amenable to including the <br /> proposed language by Mr. Pipan about possible contribution to a sewer district in the event that <br /> one is formed, a fair share contribution to a sewer district? <br /> CARR SMITH: I understand that concept, and what I understood John to say was discussion <br /> and I might have missed something—he talked about an improvement district where all property <br /> owners in the area would contribute. I have a little bit of issue putting onus on this specific <br /> property owner and not the others. <br /> 14 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />