2021-03-18 Leeward Exh B (USE 21-085)

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KEALOHA: I'm just going to say, you know, this is my last meeting, and it's kind of ironic that I'm jumping in here technically, but I have a strong suspicion that the change in use will trigger a large capacity and will require that change sooner than you think. VITOUSEK: Okay, Commissioner DeFranco. DEFRANCO: Yeah, I just, I agree with you, Nancy, on what you said, and I'm glad to know what you are saying, too, Perry, because I think that it may make, that it may get changed on its own and it'll trigger something. So, you are right, there is no telling when, when this will move any direction, but. Thank you. VITOUSEK: Commissioner Van Pernis. VAN PERNIS: Unlike the other landowners or property owners in the area, moving as to enable this applicant to make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year—and I think it's the commission's job to be proactive in suggesting or encouraging the kind of improvements that are necessary. I disagree with Ms. Carr Smith in that we should do nothing and just hope that other entities will initiate necessary changes. I think that we should make that suggestion and encourage them, rather than stand still as if we don't care. I think we should express that we do care, as Mr. Vitousek has enunciated. And I think that encouraging a septic system and special improvement district or other situation for the area is a good thing, not that we should do it because we don't have the authority, but we should encourage it, rather than sit back and do nothing, as Ms. Carr Smith and Mr. Kealoha suggest. VITOUSEK: Okay, I'm not sure that that's exactly what either of them are suggesting. I see that John had his hand raised. Is there something you'd like to respond? PIPAN: Yeah, I'd just like to reiterate; it's not the position of the applicant that they don't want to do anything. They are perfectly okay with the condition that would require a septic conversion as long as it turns out that that's actually technically feasible, given that the shoreline setback has changed and the limited space available on the property for that improvement. So I'd just like to, you know, if this is still unsettled,we'd like to entertain a motion to defer to another meeting, get some more input from a civil engineer on this. But I think perhaps the motion could be crafted in such a way that if there is sufficient space on the property for a septic system, then it will be implemented within, you know, five years. That's a reasonable ask. But we have to really keep in mind that the shoreline setback has changed, and it really makes our commitment to improving to a septic system much more tricky. VITOUSEK: So proposed language could be applicant will convert existing cesspool to a septic system within five years, if determined feasible by the constraints of the lot, individual lot. Would that be appropriate? PIPAN: That's, that's basically what I was getting at, yes. VITOUSEK: Mr. Arejian, are you, do you agree with that? 17 EXHIBIT B