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Commissioner Cardwell hasa similar concern as the Chair. She had bought used paint plenty of <br />times from Habitat for Humanity. It seems just a little bit wasteful if it’s paint that is still usable. <br />It’s just extra paint that someone doesn’t need. So we are sending it back to somewhere on the <br />mainland and they are just disposing of it. Something about that doesn’t sit well with her. <br /> <br />Mr. Hayducsko said that with the water-based paint they do recycle what is recyclable. On the <br />mainland they have the freeze-thaw thing where frozen paint is no good, or the paint dries and <br />they can’t use it. Some places like Habitat for Humanity would still be used for a dropoff. They <br />may take off what they believe they could use locally. Anything they believe they couldn’t use <br />locally would go to PaintCare. A majority of it does end up getting reused. That is not true with <br />solvent-based paints. It is going mostly to waste-to-energy facilities. <br /> <br />Commissioner Cardwell said that clarification is helpful and it does make sense, that if there’s <br />still the possibility to take paint that could be reused, that Habitat for Humanity or some similar <br />nonprofit organization would do so. And the question popped up in her mind, there are a lot of <br />barges that go back empty. So she wondered, as far as transporting paint back to mainland is <br />concerned, if it is possible to take advantage of those empty barges. <br /> <br />Mr. Hayducsko said the Legislature could help us with that in the future. Up to this point we <br />have not been getting any benefit from the recycling going back. Maybe this legislation is a <br />good time to bring that up, as we would like some help. <br /> <br />Vice Chair Gaffney asked if any members of the Hawaii Island delegation have seen the <br />PaintCare presentation and are thinking about this. <br /> <br />Recycling Specialist Sanne Berrig said staff from the offices of Sen. Mike Gabbard, Rep. Nicole <br />Lowen, Council Member Tim Richards, and one other elected official participated. They had <br />expressed interest right away. <br /> <br />Ms. Berrig added that in her conversations with Ms. McAuliffe that an important part of the <br />discussion is education. The normal reaction when you are buying something is when it’s a <br />bigger container, you buy more. You might buy a gallon when you really don’t need a gallon. So <br />a component of PaintCare is about educating people about that, and the reuse component. <br /> <br />Chair Adams wondered if we need a motion. She asked for support to continue the <br />conversation and see if we can come up with an approach that would work for the County and <br />the State. <br /> <br />10 <br /> <br /> <br />