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transportation and the disposal. It is a turnkey operation that would not burden our County operations. It mayhoweverinterfere with some of the good thingsthat arehappening. You can take latex paint now to six or seven reuse centers at transfer stations. You can take it to Habitat for Humanity. So how do we maintain, or not, all of these operations? In Minnesota, which had PaintCare, it’s really easy. If you are done with your paint, no matter who made the paint, you can take the paint back to a single store that is participating in this program. So it’s very easy and simple for the consumer, and all the costs are managed by PaintCare, and funded by the manufacturers that are upping the price of paint to cover that cost. The Chair’s concern, if she had to name one, is she would hate to see us lessen the amount of reuse of paint that we have going on now. Their focus is less on reusing the paint than on safely disposing the paint. That is something we can negotiate. A big part of their education program is, only buy as much as you need. Don’t buy gallons and gallons when you only need a pint and a half. And here is an easy place to take what’s left over, if you don’t have a way to do it. But, how we can preserve and enhance reuse possibilities has got to be an important part of that. A lot of this trying to keep whomever is handling waste from the retail side to be a small quantity. So we have these pickups after the store gets enough cans. They will come by and pick it up, so you don’t have these waste storage facilities accumulating. So it’s very good in that respect, which means also the big box stores don’t participate, because they would get too much stuff, and they would be sucked into a whole new regulatory regime. There are advantages; PaintCare is one example where they have worked up a pretty good system. We just have to see if they are going to charge twice as much for the paint just to pay for the transportation. But maybe there are opportunities to process some of the paint instead of shipping it out. It is an alternative and the Chair is very happy to see the Recycling Program is working on it. Commissioner Robinson asked what are the roadblocks in Hawaii to getting it off the ground. Mr. Hayducsko said the challenge was the process of educating the community and the policymakers – the County Council, and the Legislature. PaintCare would hire a local lobbyist to work with those entities and educate them. The legislation, they were pretty clear about this, has to be close to or identical to what they have in the other states. We have to make sure everybody understands what PaintCare is, and the counties, not just our County, have to be willing to do that also. We would like to see the EMC become educated on this, support this type of program, then the County Councils, all of them in the state, review it, understand it, and support, and then we pass it on to the state level. So is there a possibility for this actually to be passed next session? That would be wonderful. In reality, what they have seen in multiple states is that it takes multiple years. It usually doesn’t happen in one year. But the EMC is very aware of this type of program, and our legislators are also aware of these types of programs. So maybe it could happen one year. The other side of it is making sure that the retailers, the business community, understand the program, that they are not going to be burdened with the cost of this. But they will be a part of the solution, part of the program. It will be a net positive. They will be seeing their customers more often, coming in with the leftover paint. He sees these as the steps that we have to take to make this happen. 9