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soon. So it is all based on that type of surveys and all the information <br />we try to collect, not just as DAR but also collectively across different <br />agencies organizations, Universities, every type of information we can <br />get our hands on. We would incorporate that type of information into <br />you know that type of decisions or proposed restriction. To your <br />point --So for instance, you know, parrot fish was a hot topic, and it <br />was something it was at least, that group of fish that I think a lot of <br />people agreed that we need better rules and fishing regulations on <br />uhu, because a lot of people have been seeing a decline, especially the <br />larger ones or you know certain species in certain areas. So, there has <br />been a lot of support for uhu as far like you know making better rules <br />for those. For instance like Oahu, oh sorry not Oahu. Maui has specific <br />rules not taking males, you can only take females. And there is a <br />stricter limit as far as the amount of uhu that you can take and so on. <br />Just as an example, not again not something that we are set on or <br />anything, but for instance 2 uhu per person per day, it could be like <br />that as an example of a proposed rule. So, ultimately what we want <br />are limits that support pono practices and take and support the <br />fisheries. Because we know how valuable, and how precious that is. A <br />lot of staff are hunters and fishers ourselves, myself being one, born <br />and raised here. So we really value that and cherish that as well, so we <br />want to support that, but not at the expense of our habitat, coral reef <br />our ecosystem being compromised. Because these species play such <br />a huge important role. We have to find a balance and all the <br />stakeholders and what we are trying to do. We are trying to reach out <br />to communities to balance out these issues and concerns and want we <br />want moving forward. <br />Nani: So, enforcement that is always a hard task, so would that be severe <br />fines? The Hawaiians the Ancient Hawaiians in history, they had strict <br />rules and you were put to death if you got something out of season <br />and we so, it probably worked pretty well, yeah but I mean I've seen <br />strict rules about opihi's ...I'm seeing opihi in recent past still I'm seeing <br />opihi just getting overharvest all sizes ... how can you enforce the <br />rules? <br />19 <br />