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Abraham: Troy, I've got a question, pretty much covered all of them. If you guys <br />are planning on making more MMA, isn't it going to be like less areas <br />for fisherman to fish? Like you guys will be closing probably maybe <br />closing the good areas and only leaving the cliffy, rocky junky areas for <br />everybody to fish, if you create more MMA's coastline areas? I don't <br />think MMA's wouldn't be kinda good thing yeah? <br />Troy: No ... I mean <br />Abraham: just what I going put in on this one. <br />Troy: Yeah, Yeah for sure, definitely no take or anything like that. Again we <br />want to support fisheries as part of our responsibility. And there are <br />areas that have natural protection... you know the coastline is too ruff, <br />so you have resources out there that support these fishes and you <br />have that effect, that we call spill over affect where you get these <br />protected areas and because they are doing so well, a lot of time you'll <br />see, it shows in our studies in our monitoring surveys... Where areas <br />nearby these protective area you'll see an increase in species, because <br />you have a spill over affect and because we have a thriving population <br />of various species, the resources get so overwhelmed because the fish <br />start pouring out, and spreading out to other areas, so, they can be <br />supportive. Even if we were to close something off completely as an <br />example. There is still benefits to that, in areas you can fish, where you <br />have that spill over affect. You can there are <br />Abraham: My whole thing with that, don't just close off the easy spots, where <br />we can take our kids stuff like that, or Kupuna. And you guys going <br />leave the rock areas where I cannot go and take my children or <br />Kupuna, or whatever, right? <br />Troy: We wouldn't want to do that. <br />Teresa: Troy this is Teresa, This is exactly what happen at Four Seasons, at <br />Kaulupulehu. They took our fish box area telling us the out full of the <br />abundance there going to spill over. It doesn't, because going North <br />or South of the protective area, is not conducive to marine life. So if <br />you take all the best area of spawning and abundance and close it off, <br />25 <br />