2021-05-18 Game Management Advisory Commission Mintues

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telling us that the spillover is going North and South of it that is a lie. I'm not saying or calling DLNR or DAR division a lie, but the concept becomes a lie, because it cannot survive North and South of the area that is conducive or abundance of marine species that you are going to close off to us. The fish can't survive North or South of that area, because it is not conducive to marine life. Abraham: Okay Thanks Teresa Teresa: I don't want him to miss the concept of when they say they are going to closing a good area. Abraham: Right Troy: So, that is a very good point, and you know, that is something, if that would be a discussion if that is what the community wants like for instance a protective area, we would look at continuity in that habitat for that very concept. To have an area where you have that what we call spill over affect, so you have continuity in a type of habitat that would be conducive for species to thrive and move into other areas. Teresa: 33% of West Hawaii is protective area, where is the report that the spillover has given abundance to the entire area? All we hear is that the population is going down, the population is going down. Nobody gives us a report of abundance. Troy: Our Kona staff has been surveying that area the coastline, the whole West Hawaii section for a long time. They have a long and there is trends they see in their survey and data that describe and indicates that. For instance, all the MMA and protective areas across West Hawaii, they do not have the same function and or the same restriction. So they function differently and they protection different things.. A lot of it was the Aquarium Fisheries or what was the Aquarium fisheries, for species that were important to that particular fisheries. Fishing, there are a lot of areas, fishing was involved, even if it was considered in a protective area. So same thing when we are talking about proposed areas looking into the future, looking ahead, if we want to establish new ones it is not a complete closure, you know, 26