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VITOUSEK: Go ahead, Commissioner Van Pernis, you had your hand up first. Go ahead, <br /> Commissioner Van Pernis. You are, you are not on mute, you can speak now. Commissioner <br /> Van Pernis, you may speak. You are not on mute,you don't need to unmute it, you can just <br /> speak <br /> VAN PERNIS: Okay <br /> VITOUSEK: Yep. <br /> VAN PERNIS: am I heard? <br /> VITOUSEK: Yes. <br /> VAN PERNIS: I would ask the applicants. You bought this project, and when was that? When <br /> was this project purchased? <br /> FUKE: My understanding, Commissioner Van Pernis, is that the applicant bought the property, <br /> or got interest in the property, either in 2013 or 2014, and shortly thereafter they sought the time <br /> extension. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Okay, so they bought the project with the previous permits in place. <br /> FUKE: That's correct. <br /> VAN PERNIS: I assume they paid a great deal for it. Do they, does this purchaser also sell <br /> projects such as this? <br /> FUKE: You mean developed or undeveloped projects? <br /> VAN PERNIS: Undeveloped pro-well, projects such as this which are not fully developed. <br /> FUKE: I can't speak for that directly, but if Pacifica Big Island, Big Island Pacifica LLC or any <br /> other like developer, they'll either do a joint venture, sometimes they sell, sometimes they <br /> develop, you know, I've seen that happen all over. So I can't definitively state that, you know, <br /> what's going to happen like next year, and so they'll keep if for the next five or 10 years. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Oh, so it's possible that this project would be sold, like these applicants <br /> purchased it. Would they possibly sell it? <br /> FUKE: It's like, it's no different than a person applying for a single-family zoning, you know, <br /> and later on selling a portion of the, a portion or all of the properties. And so I think the critical <br /> thing in evaluating, from my point of view, evaluating land use request are, you know, is <br /> essentially, does the project meet the criteria, do you have the appropriate infrastructure to <br /> address the development, regardless of who the developer is. <br /> 19 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br />