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VITOUSEK: Okay, motion and second. I'd like to open it up to discussion at this time.
<br /> Commissioner Van Pernis.
<br /> VAN PERNIS: It's clear that this project is going on and on for many years since `89, without
<br /> any adequate public input on needed infrastructure. The current applicant purchased the property
<br /> for, I assume, millions and millions of dollars, which primarily was money added to the price by
<br /> the county rendering the SMA and other permits. What does the county get in exchange to that?
<br /> Well, we are supposed to get a bunch of infrastructure that now is not going to happen, if at all,
<br /> for up to 40 years, and we are not going to get—it's a bad deal the county has made, a real bad
<br /> deal, given them millions, they purchased for millions, and the county gets nothing back, not
<br /> even for this extension, there is no give-back for this further extension. And I think Mr.
<br /> Vitousek was barking up the right tree when he said, or when he pursued the matter of what
<br /> outside influence caused this delay. There is none. It's their desire for profit(indiscernible–
<br /> muffled) as a profit margin that dictated whether and when they were going to build after the
<br /> original applicants got millions of added values. This is not something I would say their
<br /> circumstances, the volcano eruption and COVID, this is a shibai that I've been in, is just a the
<br /> Planning Department has not looked into, and it's not adequately shown, that there is an outside
<br /> influence that dictated this need for an extension. The need for the extension is purely want of,
<br /> they want the adjusted profits. I would suggest that we put a sunset provision on this application.
<br /> Mr. Fuke says, well, he can come in and, to the Planning Commission, if you want a further
<br /> delay; I tell you, terminate the matter and start over again. I don't think the county should have
<br /> said, well,just do this extension; I think it should have been an original application all over again
<br /> so the matter of infrastructure could be addressed. I think allowing a sale and adjusting for
<br /> profits, or delay for profits, is inappropriate. I would suggest that we, all permits be terminated
<br /> at a certain future date, that the matter be approved as to the extension, but if everything is not
<br /> under construction and completed, let's say, in three years, all permits are cancelled. Thank you.
<br /> KERN: Mr. Chair, I'd like to opine real quick.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Go ahead.
<br /> KERN: This is an SMA permit. Whether it was a new permit application submitted or whether
<br /> it was a time extension that they have, we wouldn't be going over the infrastructure side of it;
<br /> that's not criteria that we review in the SMA. There is quite case law that relates to this. We do
<br /> that for rezonings. So there is no, there is, we would be at the same place regarding
<br /> infrastructure. So that's really not relevant to the SMA. We are here looking at the impacts to
<br /> the Special Management Area on their, this existing legacy zoning.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Okay. Commissioner DeFranco.
<br /> DEFRANCO: Well, you know, I just look at this is we are here now with this project, and I do
<br /> see the history of it, that they did build out some units, that it has taken them a long time. I
<br /> understand by listening to Mr. North that they have the money to go forward with this project,
<br /> that he is the new guy on the block. You know, building in Hawaii is not—it's even harder
<br /> building in California because of the cost of materials. But, you know, the point is for me it's
<br /> like I appreciate the idea that they might look at the project and give the seniors home a view; I
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