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off timewise, but—Mr. Vitousek's characterizations of all of the events I've participated in were <br /> not correct. You'll note that most of them were long before I was schooled, as referred to in <br /> section VIII of my letter, you folks know me from my activities on the Planning Commission, <br /> and so you know since then I've been reasonable and rational in every aspect. <br /> For instance, Mr. Vitousek raises the issue of a recent meeting where he interrupted me—and let <br /> me reference transcript that he hasn't produced. I was discussing in the arguments or same as <br /> such that I was supporting for a particular subdivision, and that was going to use Ka`iminani and <br /> Mamalahoa as the source for traffic, and I brought up in my discussions, I said[Note: The quote <br /> is not verbatim from the original transcript], "There is no question that this subdivision will add <br /> traffic to Mamalahoa and Ka`iminani. There is a certain time of the day there is no question that <br /> the traffic on those two roads is terrible and dangerous, and there have been fatalities. Now, why <br /> is that? That's because the Planning Commission, have approved up to 25 delays to the bypass <br /> road, that Palamanui was supposed to build by 2005, which would alleviate,"that's when Mr. <br /> Vitousek interrupted me and called for an executive session. After the executive session, he <br /> allowed me to continue to indicate that the traffic improvements that were added—stop sign, <br /> mirror, speed bumps were all favorable—and I was going to vote in favor of it. The point I was <br /> trying to make was that Mamalahoa and Ka`iminani was congested, and Palamanui had agreed to <br /> build a road to relieve that condition, and this is a, then they asked for a deferral to do that 25a <br /> deferral I did not oppose but that meant the pressure on Mamalahoa and Ka`iminani would <br /> continue, and that would increase the problems for small developer applicants who relied on <br /> those promises for their developments. And I think Mr. Vitousek misunderstood my point and <br /> thought I was trying to bring up the Palamanui road deferral, which I did not oppose when it was <br /> heard. So I'd say that there was nothing wrong with that; I was trying to make a point. <br /> In regards to the Board of Ethics' letter, I've been before the Board of Ethics, and they found no, <br /> no conflict of interest, and they have not made any decision that's adversary at this point. The <br /> complaint brought before the Board of Ethics by Ms. Hickey, the unsuccessful applicant, was a <br /> motion; I made a motion to reject her prior request, and apparently, she took that to the Board of <br /> Ethics to try to reverse it. And let me say, this is what she objected to, this is the testimony in the <br /> transcript—and Ms. Hickey, by the way, withdrew her complaint for conflict of interest—this is <br /> what I said[Note: The quote is not verbatim from the original transcript], "And the other <br /> neighbors bought agricultural rural land and the peace and the quiet that goes along with it. <br /> What about them? You go a little bit here, sometimes here, a little bit commercial there, on ag <br /> land, and pretty soon it's gone. Isn't this a bad precedent? More and more Special Permits <br /> overcoming zoning is a bad precedent, will the, we are here, the commission is here, to represent <br /> West Hawaii, not the Hickeys. And we need to consider all of West Hawaii, not just the <br /> Hickeys." So I did refer to Ms. Hickey as part of West Hawaii. I think it's unfair to say that I <br /> was out of order; I was raising a valid point. By the way, even Ms.well, Ms. Carr Smith and I <br /> often voted the same way, but we didn't vote the same on that issue. <br /> So you folks know me, you see me act on this commission. The key thing is section VIII. The <br /> County Council voted to defer the matter and not accept the mayor's letter. Since this matter <br /> rose many months ago, mostly 2020, I've been schooled by Deputy Corporation Counsel <br /> Yamamoto [sic-Yoshimoto], by Planner Jackson, and been provided with some disability <br /> assistance by the county's person in charge of such things, and studied Robert's Rules of Order. <br /> 12 <br /> EXHIBIT E <br />