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Abraham — I don't have much to add — basically Dick informed me on a lot <br />of things... <br />AA: OK. So basically, my questions would be — where can we go forward with <br />this on the Forestry side because two years ago- like I told you before — I <br />was in a meeting with Tom Lodge and Bob Masuda and you know some of <br />the other guys and everything was a yes — now everything is at a standstill, <br />but at this point — everything was yes before COVID so can't really blame <br />COVID so what would be the state's stance on it right now, I mean, maybe <br />you guys can use COVID as lack of funding — but, what would be the state's <br />point on this? <br />IC: Yeah, I think my experience — the only reason the state was involved is <br />cause they were carving the shooting range of the Puuanahulu GMA, <br />besides the funding that wasn't coming directly through DOFAW or DLNR — <br />the historical — when DOFAW per se got involved but the monies was from <br />Pittman -Robertson — I did ask the PR Hunter Ed folks what had happened in <br />— to the best of my answer was that the match that had existed prior to <br />match — what I think was mostly PR money — correct me if I'm wrong — <br />Pittman -Robertson money — I'd be redirected to Kauai which was more <br />ready to go [unclear]. <br />AA: OK. <br />?: [not speaking in mic] <br />IC: The match... <br />RH: No, I don't — I remember the year — Cindy Evans asked for an allocation of, <br />as I remember, was $800,000 dollars to do the two things that I mentioned <br />before — complete and EIS and to do a time phased real — a cost estimate — <br />nobody, by the way, expected that this thing was all gonna be — that the <br />thing I was talking about was gonna get built in one full swoop — but we had <br />a design that would accommodate all these facilities and the would be — it <br />was OK [unclear] at least and then it would be built out as funding could <br />become available. Cindy put that bill in and we — it didn't pass and that was <br />the year they allocated 1.6 billion dollars to Kauai to build a range — that <br />13 <br />