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there was no prior work on — which I never could figure out but that's <br />politics. <br />AA: Thanks Ian —just hang around in case anybody else got any more questions <br />on the issue. Hey, George, funding what you guys find out? <br />GD: I wasn't able to find anything that we don't already know. <br />AA: OK. Thanks, guys. I guess next we going move on to Maurice Messina is the <br />Director of Parks & Recreation — he'll give us an update on the trap range... <br />BK: Excuse me Chair —this is Barbara... I've been texting Maurice, he's on the <br />Saddle Road right now so he might be out of range — he was gonna pull off <br />the highway and talk to our group. I don't think now is a good time. Just <br />hold off till probably the end — he can probably be the last speaker. <br />d. Darren Ogura of the DLNR Hunter Education program will speak on Phase <br />2 of the Mile Maker 16 range development, and the acquisition of <br />funding. <br />AA: OK. Sounds good. Is Darren Ogura here? OK. Moving down to Mike <br />Donnelly, Pohakuloa Training Area Public Affairs Officer... <br />e. Mike Donnelly, Pohakuloa Training Area Public Affairs Officer will talk of <br />possible public availability of a PTA shooting range. <br />MD: Good evening everybody. Yeah, so I was invited to this meeting just to <br />monitor and kind of observe the conversation and, you know, from a <br />Pohakuloa Training Area perspective, yeah, there's — if you just take away <br />all the filters — there's certainly potentials for PTA to be in the conversation. <br />However, as I've heard many times and tonight that things are political — <br />things are bureaucratic and so Mr. Greg Fleming — our Deputy Garrison <br />Commander is online as well — this has been run to ground historically — off <br />the chain — and I will tell you from my perspective this is a senior [unclear] <br />officer involvement — this has to go all the way back to the Pentagon — so <br />my thought is because I believe that PTA has a great amount of potential to <br />be more involved with the community — and this is just one idea and so for <br />these kinds of things to happen and for me to be an action officer and try to <br />14 <br />