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<br />AA: We just don’t support the part that you said – the cattle because… <br /> <br />TR: OK. <br /> <br />AA: …. are much more damage than what any other smaller grazing animals will do. <br /> <br />TR: I hear what you’re saying – the point is we need to get it grazed. If the cattle are <br />managed in and out I think we would definitely mitigate that but that’s not the point – <br />the point is reduce the fire load – it’s not about the cattle. <br /> <br />AA: Right, exactly, yeah… <br /> <br />TR: It’s about the fire load… <br /> <br />AA: Right. Kanalu would you like to touch up on any of this? <br /> <br />NP: Did you say my name? <br /> <br />AA: I said Kanalu… <br /> <br />NP: Oh, Kanalu… <br /> <br />KS: Sure, sorry I came on late I thought the start time was 6:30pm. <br /> <br />AA: No worries… <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, I know now, yeah, I mean, it’s real easy to say we gotta get cattle or whatever up <br />in there to graze but we just have a lot of regulations and restrictions that don’t allow <br />for that to happen so trying to work around – I’m open to trying – for now, as you guys <br />know, I said it,\] many, many times there is federal mandate that really ties our hands on <br />what we can and cannot do. But I’m open to trying to find ways around something – <br />because I agree that the field loads up there are dangerous and we did get very lucky <br />that the fire didn’t get up there this time. <br /> <br />AA: All the fire departments was very quick on their response to protect the palila habitat <br />and the mamane forest but it’s a good thing tonight we get Jason Sanborn – he’s our <br />state GMAC representative and we go work very close with him to try to figure <br />something else on the state GMAC side. Any other questions or comments for Mr. <br />Richards? <br /> <br />BL: Brian – District 4, again. At one point I know that PTA and Parker Ranch were trying to <br />get into a thing to run cattle on PTA – is there any talk about opening that up since <br />they’ve already, basically, wouldn’t take much to set it up, I know Parker Ranch is not, <br />12 <br /> <br /> <br />