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– because that area is not critical habitat – so they had some cattle in there – they just <br />put ‘em out this week – I just talked to one of the cowboys and then they’ll put ‘em <br />again at the end of the bird season. So it’s a small area – it’s not part of critical habitat <br />and it would provide a buffer, a lower fuel load between \[unclear\]lower Saddle Road <br />and \[unclear\]. We’ve been trying to see if there’s other areas that might be appropriate <br />for that same type of thing but we’re not there yet. <br /> <br />SM: So the thing is you gotta try – the state has to go back in and try to get the federal <br />government to back off on this cause, like I say, you guys can prove to them that what <br />they did never create anything great for our palila, I mean, actually the palila had <br />declined instead of – back fire what they did and all going take now is one spark and <br />that whole thing going so… <br /> <br />KS: So, I will have a conversation with our assistant AG just to get information from them on <br />what – cause that’s gonna come – anything to reverse that federal mandate is going to <br />come from our attorney general \[unclear\] and we would give them information – they <br />would be the ones that have to want to or whatever \[unclear\] I don’t know but it’s a <br />conversation I’m willing to have so I can report back to you guys in a couple of months <br />on what they tell me… \[Unclear, too many talking at the same time\]. <br /> <br />AA: OK, Kanalu, yeah we going put you off till November’s meeting and I’ll bring you back in <br />November and then you can give us a report on that… <br /> <br />KS: OK. <br /> <br />AA: OK. Any other questions or comments for Mr. Richards? <br /> <br />TR: Just let me finish up… from a political standpoint – I would certainly help you guys <br />advocate for a change to the policy because I agree with you. I don’t think it’s a good <br />policy. <br /> <br />AA: OK. Can you stay on… <br /> <br />TR: So I can stay on for a little bit… <br /> <br />AA: Yeah, till we go to the discussion of the letter. That’d be fine. <br /> <br />TR: Sure… <br /> <br />c. Dr. J.B. Friday of the University of Hawai’i Forestry Cooperative Extension Service will <br />speak on the relationship between wild ungulates and the spread of the Rapid Ohia <br />Death. <br /> <br />14 <br /> <br /> <br />