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<br /> <br /> <br />Additional recommendations, of course, are to follow these traditional districting <br />principles which we heard about today from our presenter about compactness, continuity, <br />respect for political subdivisions. Do not attempt to draw a plan that would favor one <br />party over another. Avoid drawing districts with shapes so bizarre that they’re open to <br />public ridicule. They just look ridiculous. Be prepared to defend your plan. If it comes <br />down to that, and your plan is challenged, you want to have good rationale for why you <br />think this is a good and supportable plan following the principles that we’ve gone over. <br />So that’s really all that I had to present. If there’s any questions, I’m happy to take ‘em. <br /> <br />KOSSOW: Any questions for Corporation Counsel? <br /> <br />LUI: Chair Kossow? <br /> <br />KOSSOW: Yes. <br /> <br />LUI: Meizhu Lui. This isn’t really a question for Corporation Counsel but I’m wondering <br />about the inclusion of overseas military personnel. Have we gotten any data on that, or <br />will we? <br /> <br />JONES: There was a bunch of communication in order to obtain those numbers from <br />Department of Defense. I don’t have all of that here with me. Office of Elections kind of <br />managed that communication. It worked for a long time going back and forth with the <br />military, and I remember that was one of the issues they talked about was where they get <br />counted. There’s a whole set of rules that both the Census Bureau census uses. There are <br />some guidelines came out in 2018. I referred to it in one of my presentations for the full <br />Commission and that’s basically what Office of Elections used in their communications <br />with the military. So, I’m sorry, I don’t know that specific answer to your question, but <br />there was a lot of communication about that. Again, to make sure that we don’t extract <br />people who weren’t actually here, and that people do get counted who were here. I think <br />that would include I don’t know if your question was addressing if they are Hawaiʻi <br />military personnel overseas, it seems to me that they do get counted in Hawaiʻi, I’m not <br />sure where, but yeah that is something that was looked at as part of determining those <br />counts. <br /> <br />LUI: So, overseas would include people on the mainland. Is that right? <br /> <br />JONES: I would think so, yeah. <br /> <br />YOSHINA: So, Royce? <br /> <br />JONES: Yes. <br /> <br />YOSHINA: You just said they were counted? They are counted. Is that a comment you <br />made? <br /> <br />JONES: In which part? I’m sorry I didn’t hear. <br /> 29 <br /> <br />