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HCHA meeting March 2, 2021 <br />Le: Yeah, you've actually highlighted a really important point in terms on how <br />these programs and funding operates. So for any grantee, HUD requires that we <br />define what constitutes a substantial amendment and what's called a non - <br />substantial amendment, they have some baseline rules but then they leave it to <br />us to be clear that it's there. In the current approved action plan from October <br />2020, there is a section that defines what is a substantial amendment and what <br />we've defined is in clear line in what HUD requires which is any movement of <br />program funds, 10 percent or more of the total of the grant amount, so in our <br />case if we were to move 8.3 million dollars or more that would require a <br />substantial amendment, if we moved less than that it would not require a <br />substantial amendment. Another, the second of the three is whether we <br />change any criteria in terms program eligibility, that triggers a substantial <br />amendment and then lastly, if we add or move any projects that also triggers a <br />substantial amendment and so that kind of covers the substantial amendment <br />territory, in terms of the non-essential amendment, it's everything not that but <br />essentially HUD also is very incredibly keen on what constitutes an amendment <br />so when we say that we have an approved action plan, if I feel like I gotta and <br />change one adjective to another adjective or put a semicolon instead of a <br />colon, that triggers an amendment, right, and so it gets down to that level, but <br />within kind of the operation of the funding, non -substantial amendments as long <br />as they don't fall under those three triggers, we, any grantee can pursue those <br />amendment to the action plan. <br />Kanealii-Kleinfelder: Okay, so up to, sorry, 8.3 million dollars less than, we can do <br />that without any public comment. <br />Le: Right, 10 percent of the grant. I think, well and really that's kind of the cut <br />off, right, it doesn't mean that we don't take opportunities in terms of what is <br />important and critical, folks understand and know even if it is moving less than <br />ten percent of the total grant. For example, the housing relocation services <br />currently budgeted for 1.6 million dollars, really important program, right, one of <br />the two major projects we're lifting up, but clearly well under the threshold of <br />the ten percent of the grant, right, and so if we were to change anything there, <br />you now, I think it would behoove us to at least help people understand why <br />did, even if HUD does not require us to enter into a specific 30 day public <br />comment period. <br />Kanealii-Kleinfelder: Okay, and then most importantly, reporting, this says, <br />reporting, we don't have to, looks like we're required to do a quarterly and that <br />goes directly to HUD but posted on our website as well? <br />Le: That's correct. So HUD relies on their national on-line system for us to report <br />our financial management information into it but then narrative reporting in <br />terms of program activities and program outcomes are also part of that and so <br />Page 15 of 19 <br />