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GRAHAM: So if we were to follow what you’re thinking, then what we’d do is we’d continue this hearing, and then we would maybe send out kind of revised plans to these Departments, and then reschedule, and we can bring it back? YUEN: There are two possibilities. One is to do that and the other is to move ahead with our present recommendation. GRAHAM: Thank you. Commissioner Siracusa? SIRACUSA: Well, actually, indirectly the Kekela Street problem is already addressed in the Police Department’s letter here when they say that the project will significantly increase the volume of traffic entering Puainako from Kekela; and it wouldn’t do that if the Kekela entrance was closed. And then they also say to mitigate this problem left turns at Kekela Steet should be prohibited; and if that entrance was closed there would be no need to make left turns at Kekela. Do you follow what I’m trying to say? It’s sort of incorporated indirectly by inference in the Police Department’s letter referring to the problem at Kekela; and closing that entrance would be, it would seem to me to resolve those issues. However, it does not resolve my concern about having only one way in and out of a large project in case there were a fire; and so maybe something can be done where that Kekela Street entrance would be allowed but only for emergency vehicles. Is that a possibility? I’m looking for a win- win here. YUEN: Well, it’s a possibility but I’m just uncomfortable with, you know -. Well, the proposal is that we send it up to the Council with an access only from Puainako Street. I’m uncomfortable with recommending that on the lot. Yes, you can create an emergency access to Kekela Street, some kind of, you know, barrier, you know, pop-up, I don’t know exactly what you do. But we’re making a decision that the right-in/right-out is better is really on the fly and by the seat of our pants here. If you pass this out, then there’s no other option and there’s no opportunity for it. So at the very least if we were going to do that, then as I say I would want to recirculate the proposal. Commissioner Alameda? ALAMEDA: I’m just looking at the map again and maybe for Mr.Yuen, there’s no possible way of having an entry from Kilauea Avenue and maybe closer to Don Kouchi’s property? YUEN: I don’t think so. But, again, that’s another proposal. You know, if they were to make a road to Kilauea I think then there’s some people that would be certainly affected by this on Kilauea Street and aren’t here to talk about it. I don’t think there’s a feasible way of doing that though. ALAMEDA: Thank you. GRAHAM: Yes, Commissioner Iwashita. IWASHITA: It’s called a round-about. EXHIBIT B 17