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IWASHITA: So, basically, I guess if the Commission votes consistently as it previously
<br />has and it goes up on a negative recommendation you take your chances with the Council?
<br />LIM: That’s correct. What we intend to do is to file immediately by today or
<br />maybe Monday at the latest an amendment to delete the Kekela Street entrance and that would,
<br />hopefully, get circulated to the agencies relatively quickly.
<br />IWASHITA: I guess, you know, my concern is really as Commissioner Siracusa
<br />indicated that, you know, I certainly and I don’t think anyone on the Council, I don’t think even
<br />any of the new ones, are traffic experts. But, you know, this is, if the Department is going to
<br />create guidelines, you know, anything within, we can define this major intersection at
<br />Kanoelehua-Puainako, and obviously I can go on; and as far as, you know, I’m concerned any
<br />proposed development within 500 yards of that intersection a TIAR should be required before it
<br />comes before us. Because it’s going to have, you know, that traffic, you know, any kind, you
<br />guys are going to have an impact upon that intersection as well as the development. So, you
<br />know, I think I’m mirroring Commissioner Rho’s concerns that he expressed earlier in that since
<br />we’re asking the agencies now, you know, well, if they do right-turn in/right-turn out is that
<br />okay? That’s just not acceptable in terms of what I believe what I need in order to make an
<br />informed decision about this application. So, you know, I understand the applicant’s desire to
<br />moving forward and that you have the ability to do that. But, to me, that’s not, you know, in the
<br />community’s best interest, maybe in the developer’s best interest but it’s not in the community’s
<br />best interest.
<br />LIM: I think it’s unfair to characterize it that way. You know, we’re, I think in
<br />looking at, you know, listening to the concerns and the proposal to close off Kekela, I think most
<br />people know without a traffic report that that’s probably going to make the most sense. I’m not
<br />the agency so I don’t know for sure, but I’m pretty confident that’s the kind of responses we’re
<br />going to get. So for us to delay the six to eight months to get the traffic impact analysis report
<br />and the comments from the agencies on that report, in most instances I would agree with you
<br />guys. But in this particular instance, I think that we’re doing the thing that is probably going to
<br />be the recommendation from the report. I mean, none of us are experts but I think a lot of us
<br />know how to drive and what the issues are, and closing off access to Kekela Street is probably
<br />going to be the biggest single thing that we could do to mitigate the traffic impacts from the
<br />project. So I’m not trying to be difficult. I just have my client’s interest at heart. I, obviously
<br />the time is money. But we believe that we’re not just trying to ignore the Commission’s
<br />concerns, we’re trying to address the concerns by making that amendment to the proposal.
<br />GRAHAM: Thank you. Commissioner Iwashita?
<br />IWASHITA: You know, I don’t think Mr. Lim is holding himself out as a traffic expert
<br />either. So, you know, all the suggestions are basically speculation. We can always speculate.
<br />Without the information, without the report, all of us, including Mr. Lim, you know, are only
<br />speculating about the benefits or the lack of benefits of the suggested traffic flow through this
<br />project onto Puainako and/or Kekela Street. So, you know, that’s the bottom line. And as far as
<br />I’m concerned if it goes up that way to the Council the project ought to be denied.
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