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facility. I mean, the urban designation I believe is a 50-acre location intended for an industrial park. But, again, it was specifically cited on the fringeofthe Kamuela urban area. So, like I said, traditionally, I believe these types of urban industrial uses are not located within a core commercial area but rather on the fringe areas of urban development. I think thats basically what we have. ALAMEDA:Thank you, Mr. Nishimura. This is an opportunity for us as Commissioners to ask questions and try to refrain from making statements. Well have time for that too. So any questions for our applicants representative? Commissioner Siracusa. SIRACUSA:Yes. Mr. Nishimura, you and I met at some community meetings where you were representing the Fire and Police proposals to move those facilities to the outskirts of Pahoa town. NISHIMURA:Yes. SIRACUSA:Andtherewerealotofpeoplethereandweweretalking,includingpeople from the Fire Department as you will recall, and the Police Department, and we were talking about traffic problems. NISHIMURA:Yes. SIRACUSA:And you will recall that there was some mention of the high accident rate at the intersection of the bypass and Kahakai and questions about will the Fire and Police have a, will State Department of Transportation put a traffic light at that area where everything is coming together, the Fire and Police on one side, the Malama Market on the other side. Do you recall that? NISHIMURA:Yes. SIRACUSA:You informed us, or maybe it was the Fire Department that said that they wouldnt need a light there. They had a thing where they could, within their vehicles change the light, if there was a light, so that they could get out rapidly and not have to wait for a light to change. Do you remember who it was who was telling us about that? NISHIMURA:Well, the plan, and I believe what was indicated at that meeting, was that in constructing the fire station they had planned to install flashing lights on signs that would be placed, I believe, approximately 300 feet on either side of the fire station which would be activated as needed when the fire engine would be leaving, or returning, to the facility to make the motorists on the highway aware that, you know, the fire truck is leaving the facility. And that was their, I guess, response to try to address the safety issue with regard to the fire station itself. I believe in terms of the traffic signal, we felt that that was a matter that the State Department of Transportation would have to address and, you know, we didnt feel like the Fire Department would be, you know, have any control over whether or not a traffic signal was placed there or not. You know, if there is an on-going, or a need for that, I believe that as the community grows, as the population grows, you know, the traffic situation will not remain the same and additional traffic improvements will have to be made. I believe that right now the area 8EXHIBIT B