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university, and they indicated to us even at this point more than 400 students were turned away <br />because of a lack of housing. We are also looking at the creation of the Mauna Kea education <br />facility at the tech park, as well as the Pacific Basin Agricultural Research Center. All of these <br />projects seem to be coming together within the next few years, which will create a demand not <br />only for housing but for services, and that is why the commercial area. <br />If you would look at the present growth in the Hilo commercial area, most of our commercial <br />area has gone south into the area of Puainako and Kanoelehua. Most of your food and retail is <br />out in that direction. And Downtown Hilo, you have Sack and Save and a small KTA. We <br />think the growth on the north side of Hilo, with the opening up of C. Brewer lands, has <br />created an opportunity to create a commercial center catering to not only the nearby university <br />but also to the population that is growing up north of Hilo. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. Can you repeat for me again the name of the agricultural -? <br />YAMASHIRO:Pacific Basin, PBARC, Pacific Basin Agricultural Research Center. I <br />understand it'll have about a hundred researchers plus related staff, and they will relocate all of <br />the Federal Department of Agriculture research facilities for tropical agriculture to Hilo. U.S. <br />Forestry Service is also intending to relocate with this facility. And then there's the hopeful <br />growth of the community college, which has about 300 acres, like I said, right in -, the balance <br />of this area, is designated for the community college so -. <br />SPRINGER:Did I correctly hear that there's a federal component to this ag research <br />center? <br />YAMASHIRO:It is a federal -, it is the U.S. Department of Agriculture, it's not the <br />state. And the forestry service is also the U.S. Forestry Service. <br />FUJIKAWA:Any other questions? Director Yuen. <br />YUEN:Do you have that list of proposed changes to the conditions in writing <br />that I can review it during the meeting? <br />YAMASHIRO:Sure. <br />YUEN:That would assist in making response to this. <br />Just in -, and just as a comment to the previous question about the timing, our recommendation <br />doesn't have a time frame for the completion of the project, it does have a time frame for the <br />commencement of the project and the building of the Puainako Extension, which would be the <br />major infrastructure cost involved. For a long term large project to say, to give a time frame <br />for the completion is a little difficult because say your time frame ends and the project is 80 <br />percent built, then to say that well, the time is now up, there's no, really no good reason for <br />saying that at that, at a point 10 to 20 years in the future to say that the time frame is up. At <br />9 <br /> <br />