2021-12-14 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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general – and the reason that this kind of overwhelmed us is the sheer number of acres involved and when you look at the overlay and you see that those were lands that were intended for peoples’ use – then I say, hey, let’s reach out. This is a community issue – it’s not just a forest issue and the biocontrol – it’s here. You know, we didn’t bring that we – I don’t know that we would or wouldn’t have but the fact is it’s here – it’s been here for 13 years, I guess, approved and being put out in different places, I mean, I, Nani’s right, you know, that’s a fact, it’s out there, and it moves as the wind – so it’s already here – it’s a question of how long it takes not is it gonna spread – it’s intended to spread. Oh, and the last point I think, that I think, was brought up with – it’s very hard to have good animal management in a thicket, OK? You guys know that – so how are you gonna do your count, I mean, to do it properly – I’m not saying that we’ve had enough money from the state to do animal counts properly and to manage properly, if you were looking at an area, let’s say, of 5,000 acres – and it was a thicket – how would you know how many pigs you had and how they’re doing how do \[unclear\] diseases from… AA: Well, to answer that question we have Melissa Price in the audience – maybe Melissa Price can help you out with that… PS: Good… AA: Melissa Price is there a way you can answer Peter Simmons’ question or maybe he can send an email out to your partner – what was his name… PS: True – the point is you got to get there to do the counting in some fashion and if you can’t get there then it makes it very difficult to keep control of your numbers – for their own help… AA: So they’re already doing research on numbers and stuff that’s why I want to kind of bring her in… JBF: This is J.B. Friday at UH – sorry, Melissa said she stepped out for a second – I just wanted to mention that the way they were doing it was with game cams and just as Peter says – you need to be able to get in the forest to do surveys so, yeah, you can do it but as you all know – if you gotta hike through a mile of strawberry guava thicket’s gonna make it really rough. But the technology is game cams. AA: Thanks, J.B. SM: Stanley – District 1. My concern is for the animals and now you take away the banana poka – you wipe out the waiwi – what is there for the animals now – they going hit maybe the native stuff, right? So… PS: Peter Simmons – if there were – depending on the situation – a hungry, starving animal will do anything to survive, so, yeah… SM: And they moved down into the neighborhoods now – those pigs – so, um, maybe we need some food there for them – not wipe everything out, you know what I mean? 10