2021-12-14 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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PS: Yeah, oh, there would be – just in this scenario – there would be some fruit on the side – it would be a lot less than it was but if you’re in one of these areas – is a game management area – and you’re managing it for the game… SM: You know, that’s the thing… PS: ….I’m not saying they don’t… I’m just saying this is what should be done, not is done right now… In order to manage the game properly, you know, right now they’re in bad – worse shape than they would be – if they were properly managed \[unclear\] so… SM: Because there’s no money for game here – the state is – they cannot use money to enhance game so… PS: Right, yeah…You’re totally right… AA: Are there any questions from the public? SH: Yes, Steve Hurt… AA: Hi, Steve, go ahead… SH: OK. At the end of your project – what is the vision that you’re actually after – what is the finished product? PS: Of course, they’re now unhealthy and unstable – lands that are unhealthy and unstable would be brought back to a healthy and productive state depending on the landowners’ interest in each area. SH: OK, on state lands what is that picture? The final product that you guys are looking for? Is it just the removal of the strawberry guava? PS: Or, no, it’s the reestablishment of the proper canopy and the release of the strawberry – when the strawberry guavas is taken off the site. SH: OK. Good, now – here’s the – my question I wanted to come out with and that’s the right answer that you gave me – what is the picture for that proper canopy? Is it trying bring – returns the way it was before man came or what is that actual picture and I’ve never been able to get an answer from anybody at any time on what the final picture is. PS: My picture – Peter here – Peter Simmons – sorry – my picture Steve is that in 40 years there would be a great deal more koa and Ohia and hapuu and access – people would be able to get places and do things and that the outer story would likely still have many alien elements that would just be part of the landscape forever and if you think about how you would manage \[unclear\] Clidemia and \[unclear\] Clidemia is in a working forest – well then you would manage the Clidemia like you would in a semi-agricultural setting, um, my picture is that we stop the spread of the waiwi going mauka because of the way this biocontrol works – and we reduce its vigor going all the way down the mountain to make it easier to manage. It’s a long journey and it’s a mistake for us, right now, sitting here to give the full vision because I’m counting on you 11