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PS: I think I understand – Peter Simmons – the bill that was passed in 1971 probably-ish to label all <br />of these different conservation district uses… <br /> <br />AA: Yeah, that’s… <br /> <br />PS: Yeah, OK, so it’s just – the underlying bill that made out conservation fee, conservation R, <br />conservation G – all of those and what the uses are to be. That’s the legislation he’s talking <br />about – from the 1970s. <br /> <br />DB: Oh, oh, that’s, yeah, that’s many decades ago… <br /> <br />AA: My question is what legislation is that so me or the members of the Commission and the public <br />can actually go and do some research on it? <br /> <br />DB: I’ll get the number back and send it to you… <br /> <br />AA: OK. Thanks… <br /> <br />DB: It’s in the zoning… <br /> <br />AA: OK. So my next question – besides a questions – what’s biocontrol – what biocontrol you talking <br />about… <br /> <br />DB: Biocontrol is an insect that was imported from Brazil – it went through – it’s called \[unclear\] and <br />it was undergoing about 10 years of research to see if it affected any other species – it was <br />found that it did not – the State applied for – did an environmental assessment and they got <br />back a finding of no significant impact in releasing that insect. <br /> <br />AA: Right, so, Abraham – District 5 – so that’s the insect they released to go into the flower and eat <br />the flower that not going produce fruit and kill the seeds? <br /> <br />PS: No. Peter Simmons – this is the one – it’s a Brazilian scale – it bites into the leaf – lays eggs in the <br />leaf – just in the leaf and by galling by putting galls on the leaf it reduces the vigor of the plant. <br /> <br />AA: Right, it still affects the breeding of the plant or something? <br /> <br />PS: About 80% of the vigor is gone so it’s kind of fruitless, flowerless, put out less branches… <br /> <br />AA: All right – so a little bit of history. You know, I’m a lifelong resident, lower Puna, upper Puna, <br />whatever – so I know the damage or the, how bad the waiwi is and, I hunted in Hilo side and <br />also out in \[unclear\] so I know majority of the Island – yes, it does suck hunting in that thing and <br />I really don’t approve it very much but as part of our scope as a game management and we need <br />to look for – it kind of seems like you guys going to the waiwi and like Bryan said – then it’s the <br />pigs – and then you guys mentioned ROD also – and they go after the ROD first and then they go <br />after the pigs – because now they saying our ungulates is spreading the ROD – so if we go in and <br />eradicate all the waiwi and there’s no other food source like I said, what they go next – they <br />going to scrape the Ohia nest or the koa nests – and that’s like everybody’s main thing – is to get <br />rid of one of our main resources on the island. They already got rid of, well I’ll say, 99% of the <br />14 <br /> <br /> <br />