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sheep that it’s like a major – one of the other – the second major resource of the island that’s <br />like not brought in by ship, you know, so like I always say – what happens if the ship stops <br />sailing… <br /> <br />PS: Yeah, good point… <br /> <br />AA: There goes all our resources… So everything goes down to, you know, the easiest – to me it’s <br />like everybody attacks the easiest thing – so let’s go after the waiwi, then next let’s go after pigs <br />because the pigs causing more damage – now they going into the subdivisions and they causing <br />more damage in the subdivisions when they should be up in the forest – so what going make <br />them stay up in the forest – there’s no food up there in the forest – only going get grub – right – <br />worms, vegetation, or whatever else they can find, and my other question is like – why you guys <br />plan is only with the waiwi? Now you go up on the mountain and maybe it’s not as much as an <br />area but you get that gorse – you can help go and take out that gorse, right? What’s the <br />mapping – what kind of mapping thing do you guys have for the \[unclear\] ferns? I mean that has <br />a cultural resource to it too, you know, as far as decorations and maybe Leomana can come up <br />with some other usage for the uluhe fern but I guarantee you the uluhe fern get just as much <br />coverage throughout our forest then the waiwi and hunting through that and the animals <br />getting access through that it sucks too. <br /> <br />DB: This is Don Bryan… <br /> <br />AA: Hold on Don. And then – as far as you guys 20 years’ plan – 20 years if we or you guys’ <br />organization can slow it down – at least slow it down and open up our areas and not take it all – <br />then, eh, that’ll be great and we’ll support something like that, you know, and as far as the state <br />goes – the state always says – zero is the number. Our game management is zero, right, so even <br />with the – there’s got to be a happy medium number, right, and even with the waiwi – like Tony <br />said there’s some people that they use ‘em – make jam – eh, I eat ‘em, sometime when waiwi <br />season start – yeah, I stop on the road I grab some I eat ‘em on the way home… <br /> <br />DB: Sure… <br /> <br />AA: They’re delicious to me. I grew up on that, you know, so it’s like you can’t take ‘em all out – <br />there’s got to be happy medium number… <br /> <br />PS: Peter Simmons… <br /> <br />AA: OK. Now you guys can speak… <br /> <br />PS: Well, this bug – is already out of the box. <br /> <br />AA: Right… <br /> <br />PS: It’s not – it’s a question of when it’s gonna be over every place – not if – so it blows it blows with <br />the wind – it’s been planted already out in areas – that’s already – that argument – I mean, I <br />wasn’t in on that – I’d retired about that time when it was coming around – but the argument <br />about we eat jams and jellies and the food is good – yeah, that’s absolutely true and those <br />15 <br /> <br /> <br />