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sound stock to you, but that’s about all I can say to support that this company does continue to have those intentions and is still around to have those intentions. GRAHAM: All right, thank you. Do we have any other questions from the Commissioners? Commissioner Watanabe? WATANABE: I’m glad you pointed that out. I don’t know if you could answer this question; I’m not even sure if it’s a fair question. But, you know, other developers that had issues, you know, fell delinquent in their property taxes, etc.? Is that the situation with Elleair, or are they to your knowledge current? W. YUEN: To my knowledge, they are current. WATANABE: Thank you. GRAHAM: Are there any other questions? Mr. Torigoe, could I ask you for some sense on a time extension request like this? What, from the legal frame work, what we as Commissioners should consider as necessary to grant it, or what we as Commissioners should consider as perhaps adequate or sufficient to choose to not grant it? What are the laws of criteria we should be using? TORIGOE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Real generally, your Rule 9-11, G. 1. basically says that when a time extension request is made, the applicant shall set forth in writing the length of time requested and the reasons for the time extension. And the notice and hearing are basically the same as when you have an initial request for an SMA Permit. So the way the Planning Director has basically set it out is whether the request isn’t semi contrary to the General Plan or the Zoning Code or the original reasons for the granting of the Special Permit No. 25. As you’ve noted, the Permit was granted in the first place. So basically you are looking at whether something has changed that would weigh against allowing the extension to allow the Permit to be paid out as it was originally intended. And bearing in mind the guidelines are set forth in HRS 205A-26, and that the purpose of the SMA Permit and the criteria of the Permit are basically environmental in nature so -. And of course each case has to be taken on its own merits. I don’t know if the Staff would have anything to add to that. GRAHAM: Jeff or Norman, do you have anything to add to that or -? Commissioner Watanabe? WATANABE: I have a comment, but you know our Rules preclude Commissioners from testifying, so I would prefer to make the comment when we are in deliberation, rather than -. But it lends to this extended time period that we are talking about. GRAHAM: Okay. Yes, Commissioner McCall? MCCALL: I have a question I believe to the applicant just about the integrated golf course management plan that the Director is recommending and you have accepted. On the previous golf courses that were put together, is it the same owners that put the first golf courses together? EXHIBIT C 5