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BAIL: Perhaps I can address that. Waikoloa Development Company has <br />developed the first two golf courses, which have been subject to other requirements contained in <br />the Permit itself, some of which were duplicates of the new conditions imposed in the new golf <br />course management plan condition for this new course. <br />MCCALL: I would assume that these conditions are probably somewhat more <br />stringent than what was put forth with the first golf courses. Were they done, what, twenty years <br />ago? <br />BAIL: Yeah, I think some of the conditions were actually more stringent. For <br />example, there were conditions imposed on Waikoloa to monitor water quality in the entire area <br />and make periodic reporting to the Department of Health, and that is done on an on-going basis. <br />And other management practice controls are implemented at the golf courses there: Native <br />plantings to promote native species and landscape areas around the golf courses. So there is a <br />whole series of criteria that have already been applied to the first courses that the Commission <br />found when the original permit was granted, allowing those first two courses satisfied all of the <br />Special Management Area rules and environmental concerns contained in the rules. <br />MCCALL: I guess what I’m getting at, you may or may not be able to answer, is that <br />in your opinion, would this -, with a new integrated golf course management plan, would that be <br />more protective of the environment than what was done in the first courses, or is that something, <br />you know, -? <br />BAIL: I haven’t gone through to compare, so I don’t want to comment about <br />whether it’s more stringent or not. But I think the point is that the Special Management Area <br />rules themselves require compliance with conditions that protect the environment. Those were <br />scrutinized in detail in the series of hearings and before the Land Use Commission to be sure that <br />the environment would be adequately protected with the construction of these golf courses. So I <br />think at the time the original permit was granted, those issues were addressed. I don’t know <br />what the genesis is of this new golf course management plan requirement. This is the first time <br />I’m seeing it, and like I said I haven’t gone back to do a line-by-line comparison of those old <br />requirements versus the new ones. <br />MCCALL: Thank you. <br />W. YUEN: I think in summary from Waikoloa Homesites Ventures’ prospective, we <br />believe that the Health Department regulations and other regulations presently in place <br />adequately cover these requirements. But it’s the Planning Commission’s discretion to impose <br />conditions, so we are not going to oppose it on that basis. <br />GRAHAM: Commissioners? Taking a cue from Commissioner Watanabe, I certainly <br />don’t want to testify either on this, but I feel like I should at least flesh out what my concerns are <br />and why I’m, you know, belaboring the point that I have or might want to say. I think from what <br />Mr. Torigoe said, if in fact the conditions for granting the original permit still exist today, then <br />presumably it’s reasonable to extend the permit. <br />And the issue I think that most concerns me in West Hawaii in general is that condition of the <br />ocean. And like back before 1980, before the first Sheraton was built down there, I frequented <br />EXHIBIT C <br />6 <br /> <br />