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LINDSEY:Yes. MATSUKAWA:Okay. Were you aware that this entire parcel was known as the Hoikeana Cemetery that was a church in South Kona? LINDSEY:I wasnt aware that this entire parcel was identified by that name. MATSUKAWA:Okay. Assuming that it is true that there is a survey map and testimony that the entire 0.7 acre parcel, not just A & B but the entire thing is a cemetery would you have discussed Mr. Ibbetsons construction of a home in any different manner? Would your analysis of the situation have been any different in other words? LINDSEY:Only if there was question of actual burial sites existing outside of areas identified as A & B. MATSUKAWA:And would you have considered the entire parcel as a historic property? If itweremorethan50yearsold? LINDSEY:Icantanswerthatquestion. MATSUKAWA:Okayandyouveansweredmyquestion.Youwouldhave,wouldyou have nonetheless. Let me ask again. Would you have treated the entire 0.7 acre parcel as a cemetery not just A & B? LINDSEY:Only if burials existed outside of those areas A & B. MATSUKAWA:So your definition of cemetery is where the burials are located as opposed to the entire? Lets say-. Let me backtrack. Lets say I have a cemetery thats 2 acres but only a portion has been developed and used for burials. Would you call, would your use of the word in your profession, cemetery be the entire parcel or just the area where burials are located? LINDSEY:Well I mean its tough cause you know cemetery is a word that shows up in the statutes that we run under. But, what were truly trying to do is protect any actual burial sites. MATSUKAWA:Okay fair enough. Now after you went out to the site on March 11, 2003 you recall according to whats been submitted here is a memorandum by yourself that you discussed other issues discussed were recordation of sites with the Bureau of Conveyances, Consultations with an access for lineal and/or cultural descendants formalizing burial treatment plan prior to ground altering activities. Mr. Ibbetson seemed agreeable to these items and said he would contact SHPD again soon. When you wrote that memo were these things that had to be done in your mind at the time in 2003 when you wrote the memo? LINDSEY:The day I wrote the memo those are things that potentially had to happen yes. EXHIBIT B 12