2022-01-07 EMC special meeting draft minutes

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ADAMS: Thank you. Are there any other questions? Make sure I follow thisright, Ms. Kekai. Do you have any follow up questions? Redirect? KEKAI: No, chair. ADAMS: Okay. Next we're on to redirect examination. Does either representative of the Appellant have any additional testimony to give based on the questions that we have asked? If none, does the Appellant have any additional witnesses today? HENDERSON: This is Ritchie Henderson. No, we don't. CHAIR: Okay, thank you. So the parties did stipulate to the exhibits, so I don't need to do that piece. And so it sounds like we are now closing the Appellant's case in chief, and we have received the exhibits into the record. WONG: Sorry, Madam Chair, if I may interject briefly. This is kind of an odd setting. So sorry for interjecting, but I guess I would give the commissioners one last opportunity to ask any questions of the Appellant, and this could be related to any of the exhibits, any of their testimony that they gave today or any questions that you have of the Appellant. This is the time for the Appellant to prove its case. And so I want to make sure that the commissioners have the opportunity to ask any questions that they might have. ADAMS: Okay. Thank you for that, clarification. So any questions you have of what has been said by the Appellants or any of their exhibits. GAFFNEY: This is Commissioner Gaffney. I have a couple of questions. I'm curious what other facilities in the main residence are connected to the sewer? In other words, is there a kitchen? Is there another bathroom? What else is connected to the sewer? HENDERSON: This is Ritchie Henderson. Commissioner Gaffney, In response to your question, there is a kitchen sink. There is an upstairs toilet, sink and shower. And there is an outside shower, sink, and toilet right at the front door. The house was built on the original 1864 stone wall foundation and Ossipoff, the architect that designed it, did not include within the structure any laundry facilities. And that was put on the outside, where a 20,000 gallon catchment tank needed to be installed and enclosed because Kona did not have municipal water at the time. And in that outside catchment tank, storage shed area, he housed the laundry area, bath and toilet. GAFFNEY: Thank you. And I have one other question. Obviously, before the sewer system was put in, there was a cesspool on the property. And how much use does this house get? HENDERSON: In my lifetime, the house was finished, I guess, in 1953, the year I was born. Growing up here in Hawai‘i, we spent our summer vacations over there for two, three months a 8