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KELIIPIO:I think you should deny the request of the applicant. Im wondering why <br />he cant downsize his house to move his pool back and fit his pool within, within the required <br />setback. And I think that his lawyer has made some, I mean, all kinds of excuses with the public <br />right-of-way for reasons why you should grant it; and I really think those are poor excuses, and <br />you shouldnt grant this-this request. Thank you. <br />SPRINGER:Youre welcome. Thank you. Commissioners, do you have any questions <br />for the testifier? Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA:Yes. Id like you to be a little more specific and tell us why you think <br />those excuses are poor. <br />KELIIPIO:Well, the excuses that he, he mentioned were that the lot owner already <br />has provided like 5 feet of public access to the trail and, and, and the front part, that wall is also <br />publicaccess,andthereforeheshould,youknow,since,sincethatparthepaystaxesonthat <br />section that therefore he should have the pool where it is. And, and Im, Im thinking that <br />perhaps, you know, the County needs to or somebody needs to condemn that area for public use <br />exclusively so that we dont have those kinds of excuses any more for this landowner or people <br />like him to make. And that, I dont know, those reasons are not good enough, in my opinion, for <br />him to have his pool so close to the shoreline setback. <br />SPRINGER:Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA:Are, are you interpreting this as a native Hawaiian access rights issue? I, I <br />notice from your name and your appearance that youre probably native Hawaiian. But you <br />didnt say so specifically and Id like to know if thats the way youre interpreting this. <br />KELIIPIO:No, Im not, just as citizen in Kona. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. Other Commissioners? Thank you, Ms. Keliipio. <br />Mr. Rothstein, your name and address, please. <br />ROTHSTEIN:Good morning, my name is Jerry Rothstein; and I live in 76-123 Royal <br />Poinciana Drive, Kailua-Kona. And Im here representing PASH, Public Access Shoreline <br />Hawai¡i. There are two givens here. One is a Shoreline Certification and the second, which <br />establishes the shoreline at the base of the wall, and the second is the shoreline certification rules, <br />which allow a shoreline setback variance based upon certain criteria which are defined as <br />hardship. There are other things that have been brought up that I maintain are not relevant. Prior <br />shoreline certification is not relevant to this. The fact that neighbors have pools is not relative, <br />relevant to this. All but one of those pools have been put in without having to deal with a <br />shoreline setback. The fact that theres a makai, 3-foot makai easement along the wall is not <br />relevant. And, also, the prior shoreline setback variance on parcel 42, which was just brought <br />up, I dont think is relevant either. That was another time, that was 7 years ago. That, no, it was <br />a, it was a almost 10 years ago. It was a different Planning Commission, a different Mayor, a <br />different Planning Director; and theres not necessarily any precedent value. If they did <br />something one way, it is no bearing on what, on the decisions that you have to make today. <br />10 <br /> <br />