2021-11-23 Redistricting Commission minutes (8th Session Part 1)

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KOSSOW: Mr. Yoshina. YOSHINA: I just want to voice my appreciation for that edification. Thanks. KOSSOW: Thank you, Mr. Yoshina. Any further discussion? Mr. Hustace. HUSTACE: Thanks, Chair. We may have to throw out this map altogether then,just to be clear with you. And as you mentioned earlier, there's this domino effect, there's this ripple. So, this map was selected because of its Honoli`i boundary. So, as soon as I moved Hilo up that direction, the Hilo district further in Hamakua, Hamakua shifts counterclockwise. Council District 9 shifts counterclockwise. So, they all shifting down, shifting down counterclockwise. That would push Council 6 into Hilo then. It's just moving everything in a counterclockwise thing, fashion. So, it's this ripple effect. So if we are set on particular boundaries, then we have to acknowledge these other shifts that going to happen. Because Council 1 is pushing into half of Waimea. So that's what happens when you set the boundary at Honoli`i. No one—we aren't all going to be happy on these things and there are going be some shifts and changes here. I understand and I want to represent the people as best as possible for different districts. Though if we set these boundaries, then it's going to have this ripple effect across the whole island. Thank you. KOSSOW: Thank you, Mr. Hustace. Any other discussion? LUL Stephanie and I both have our hands up. KOSSOW: Is that Ms. Lui? LUL Yeah, thank you. I don't know if you're able to see my hand raised in the little box on the Zoom screen. Well, I guess I wanted to say that I feel like what we should look at is the total deviations. I think that if some districts have to have a greater deviation, that might be okay. I feel like in terms of representation, I don't know, this may be heretical that the exact numbers are less important than the communities of interest. So, I would just encourage us to think that way, rather than to make the main goal getting the deviation in each district down to the lowest amount. Thank you. KOSSOW: Ms. Bath. BATH: Yeah. You know, after the last meeting, I left feeling like we had accomplished a lot and that we were moving forward. And my impression, not that I'm saying that we shouldn't look at other options or other possibilities, but my hope for this meeting was to pick up where we left off the last meeting with that map that we were working on, and then go ahead. `Cause it seemed like we still needed to do some tweaking and moving in Kona. My hope was that we kind of paste it in temporarily in a draft form of what we had achieved in the last meeting. And then gathering opinions and build upon that, rather than redoing what we already came to an agreement with at the last meeting. I don't know if that's doable. I yield. 16