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– now they have what 700 or 800 traps on Mauna Kea, or something and <br />last year they trapped 121 cats, which the year before they trapped 70 and <br />so I wonder, I think predation probably has a role in that as well. I wonder <br />about rainfall, and when the rain events happen, yeah, if you look at the <br />annual rain it might look OK but when all of that rain falls in four days in the <br />year because you get these huge storms – I’m not sure how beneficial that is <br />for the birds. Yeah, I don’t know, it’s just all stuff I wonder about. <br /> <br />SM: Stanley – District 1, again. I took notice few years ago now – that when we <br />used to hunt there weren’t baby birds like the erckels, franklin and all that, <br />now, you get lotta – during the bird season you get all that young birds – the <br />baby stuff – so, you guys can figure out why, no? <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, and like I would think about that is dependent - is when was the rain <br />events that was beneficial for the hatch that year… <br /> <br />SM: Right… <br /> <br />KS: Because they can have multiple egg laying hatches within a year and so but <br />we don’t have any weather type of recording stations in the hunting areas <br />to record that data – I do have two though that I do want to put out – I just <br />got ‘em though, so we’re working on getting those on the program – you got <br />a program you got to find a place to put ‘em – that would be something that <br />could help – I don’t know. Something else that we are exploring is to at <br />least try to help bolster – is – I’ve been in contact with somebody from <br />Kohala High School that wants – that has built a fly pen and is ordering <br />chukars and wants to do it as a school project and they want to release it in <br />the public hunting area and so I’m planning on going up there and talking <br />story with them – we’ll probably support them a little bit financially but he’s <br />found some good money resources so he doesn’t need too much help but <br />he needed help with the permitting process to bring the birds over and so if <br />our agency participates in that that helps when he goes to the Department <br />of Ag to make things a little easier and we intend to do that as a start for this <br />year to do something to help track with that, but, I think, you know, like you <br />guys are saying or at least it feels like – there’s more to it than just that… <br />putting birds back – it’s like finding out what we can do to help them out <br />there. <br />5 <br /> <br /> <br />