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SM: This is gonna be my next question about releasing birds – but my concern is <br />you release the birds and if there’s a problem then those birds are gonna <br />die, too, right… <br /> <br />KS: Yeah… <br /> <br />BL: Brian Ley – District 4. First apologies to everybody – I thought the meeting <br />was at 6:30 and I had my alarm set – I’m working in Michigan so it’s 11:30 <br />something out here so my apologies for being late and thanks Todd and, oh, <br />Kanalu, for texting me and getting me up a little earlier than I was planning… <br />Hey, are you in touch with Brian Leo – cause I know he was doing liver <br />samples looking for toxicology in there – are you in touch with him and <br />seeing if he’s got any of his results back? <br /> <br />KS: No. Yes, I do know he’s still waiting for results… <br /> <br />BL: OK… <br /> <br />KS: So he’s not received the results from that… <br /> <br />BL: Have you guys thought about doing blood samples or anything else like that <br />seeing if the migratory birds might have brought in a new strain of <br />something that’s killing the birds cause I know they’re having problems on <br />the mainland with the grouse with the new disease that’s showing up that’s <br />kind of decimating the grouse population on the mainland… <br /> <br />KS: Oh, yeah, that’s interesting, so last year we were doing a pilot study with <br />palila where we were just trying – cause that’s another, I mean, I regret <br />now mentioning that word cause I’m sure I’m gonna get plenty of questions <br />about it but in that study they captured 30 birds and they took blood <br />samples and it was the only place on the Island – I don’t know if in the State <br />– maybe the State – but where there was zero avian malaria in the birds – all <br />the birds – so they caught 30 palila – but they caught other birds too, so, I <br />mean, that doesn’t answer the question about game birds necessarily but I <br />would assume that some sort of disease amongst birds would probably hit <br />our native species harder and first than it would the game birds – so, I mean, <br />that’s a good thing – that it’s not disease for palila. Like I said in those 30 <br />6 <br /> <br /> <br />