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Merit Appeals Board <br />November 19, 2021 <br />are you saying, and we're more associated—we're more concerned about the process associated <br />with it than with the individuals. <br />CHR. CABANAS: I understand what you're saying but the situation that a lot of employees <br />encountered was not only the fear element but the trust issue. And it goes back to Ms. Mathews <br />question about how do you sell it because you want the members of the public and County <br />employees to be able to trust this process, otherwise, this is for naught. <br />MR. BENNER: Mm-hmm. <br />CHR. CABANAS: This is going to be something that the public will say, "You know what, this <br />is another thing they're just hanging the carrot in front of our face and it's not meaningful." <br />MR. BENNER: Yeah, I can definitely understand that concern. What we're seeing the best <br />way to address that and maybe this dovetails back into how to sell it—is we're really trying to <br />improve the transparency aspect of it and that's not just a talking point. <br />We want to publish the investigations that we pursue as a public facing document. So an <br />investigation of these matters would generally be a one to two -paged really concise document <br />that summarizes the general issues, the findings, and the recommendations that were made—and <br />that is a public downloadable document that they can retrieve at any time. <br />So, we're doing our best just to bring about that feedback loop to the process, so that they know <br />that it is—it—that the complaint isn't just being logged down a blackhole. <br />CHR. CABANAS: How do you provide feedback to a complainant without getting to their <br />identity? <br />MR. BENNER: So, when they call in and if they want to follow-up on a particular case—at the <br />end of the phone call we'll give them the case number that we assign to it and they can call in <br />and ask about the disposition of that case number. <br />So, we're not asking who's calling us, we're just asking for the information that was given to <br />them at the end of that first round of phone call. <br />CHR. CABANAS: And will the determination be made only with one analyst or is there aI'm <br />trying to choose the right word—is there a mechanism for collaboration? Let's say it's an <br />embezzlement <br />MR. BENNER: Mm-hmm. <br />CHR. CABANAS: someone is stealing money from—in one of the departments. Do you now <br />collaborate with the prosecutor, with the police department, do you have that in -roads already <br />pretty much established when you implement this for one year? <br />Page 20 <br />