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GRAHAM: Thank you. Yes, go ahead, sir. <br />SQUASSONI: Yes, only because it wasn’t mentioned earlier, and some of this is buried <br />in some of those documents, so that it was clear to anybody who’s investing, that the company <br />that we’re talking about actually is owned 40 percent by Kalani Honua which is a non-profit <br />company. So at no level is there any sort of private ownership. Even the company that owns the <br />land is owned 40 percent by the Kalani Honua Retreat Non-profit, as is the current retreat. So I <br />just wanted to make sure that was clearly understood. Thank you. <br />KOOB: And that’s done just to keep all organizations moving forward, all the <br />property that’s there, down those two properties moving forward in an educational purpose. <br />GRAHAM: All right, thank you. Would you folks be ready for some questions from <br />the Commissioners now? <br />STRAUSS: Sure. <br />GRAHAM: All right, Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: I have a series of questions. For one thing I’m sort of confused about the <br />relationship between Kalani Honua Inc., Kalani Kai, and Richard Koob. In some places in all <br />these documentation it says that Kalani Honua is the manager, and other places it says that <br />Richard Koob is the manager. Now I know that Richard Koob is the president of Kalani Honua, <br />but he’s also the president of Kalani Kai. So this raises some questions as to, I mean, Richard, <br />are you the be all and end all here? <br />KOOB: Could I answer? <br />SIRACUSA: It sure looks that way. <br />KOOB: Can I answer? <br />SIRACUSA: And it also says the initial members, Kalani Honua Inc. is who is listed as <br />the initial member having put in an initial capital contribution of $250 plus the TMK that we’re <br />looking at here; but no where does it says what the value of that TMK is. So this is my first <br />series of questions, but I have more questions. But if I say too many you’ll forget what I asked. <br />GRAHAM: Ms. Siracusa, also, we have about 10 minutes before we’re going to take a <br />break, so maybe if we just finished that one and let a couple of other people get some in. Then <br />we’ll come back and deal with more of that after we do our lunch. Thank you. <br />KOOB: Well, anyway, in starting Kalani I kind of broke my family into, you <br />know, for purchasing the initial property, the 19 acres; and then in the mid-nineties we purchased <br />the 94 acres. And we did that because we really felt that the 94 acres was important to preserve <br />because it’s surrounded by State land, and we knew that the company in New York was <br /> EXHIBIT C 10 <br /> <br />