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virtue of owning those sticks, that masonry, that glass. He has a lease. Mr. Squassoni gets no <br />interest in the land underneath his unit, that portion of which he would construct and have the <br />right to occupy. His interest is an undivided interest in the company that owns the entire parcel <br />of land, Kalani Kai LLC. So the concern that we have that we’re creating a subdivision or we’re <br />creating a condominium it doesn’t fly because this is not land ownership. This is entering into a <br />relationship with other people in a company, investing in a piece of property that’s undivided and <br />obtaining some of the divisible, legally divisible benefits that go with that property, and dividing <br />them up in a way that is fair, that Mr. Squassoni thinks it’s fair, and in a way that promotes the <br />special permit. All the same functions, all the same uses, all the same purposes of the special <br />permit are being met here. It’s just that instead of Mr. Koob owning all these units, a company <br />owns these units; and people are part of the company, and they fund the development of that, <br />those structures. Did you have -? <br />KOOB: Yes, I guess, one clarification. I know, when Jeff made his initial <br />presentation he said that, as is stated here, that there are four rooms, each hale or in which case <br />the clusters as we got approved as an alternative, have, there will be four rooms and as proposed <br />the number of guest rooms include a staff room in each hale, you know, with the off, I’m sorry, <br />where am I, each hale unit would accommodate two guests, a faculty and a staff member. So I <br />think there’s this sort of confusion by us, Chris’s belief that there’s one room that’s for staff or <br />faculty; but, in fact, I think the consideration that Sidney Fuke was making was that a faculty <br />person was also often a guest. And we have, so three of the rooms are for, and it goes on to say, <br />in other words, “So as proposed the number of guest rooms, including the staff room in each <br />unit, would be considered as three rooms.” That’s because there’s two guests and a faculty <br />person, and then there’s another room for a staff person. So we consider two of those rooms to <br />be for a long-term kind of resident people that are really helping steward Kalani and involved in <br />the programs, the fact, the person who’s in the faculty room and the person who’s in the staff <br />room. And those are the rooms that we’re saying this is what’s available for people to, you <br />know, have an interest in. Because what we’re doing is building more responsible community, <br />more responsible stewardship, by people actually having those sticks, and owning them and <br />having some attachment to the whole organization. It means that we can have, what we all want <br />is more permanent residents here who can really add to the community, people who have the <br />qualifications that Paul has, people who like him become committed in organizations like Imua <br />Puna Makai, like Kalani ended up hosting the elections this year because we’re involved and we <br />want to be involved in the community. And the big factor of this too is instead of dividing these <br />94 acres into Ag-3 lots that they could have been divided into sensibly because it’s Ag-3, we’re <br />not putting our energy into that.That would be, for me, a complete destruction or unnecessary <br />destruction of the land. By going with the special permit, we’re able to contain this within 15 <br />acres so that we preserve all that property around, that it can be used for agriculture and preserve <br />forest purposes. It’s just a whole other way of looking at land development. <br />I began my career in New York in Urban Planning Committee, a New York private nonprofit <br />organization; and I started working with planners way back then. I’ve worked in the State as the <br />arts coordinator for this island for the State Foundation on Culture and the Arts; and I’ve taught <br />at both university campuses. I feel that we’ve had so much contact and so much support in <br />making this happen, in making it happen in a unique way that serves the public. So I really urge <br />your support to allow this to happen and allow us to have more responsible stewardship. <br /> EXHIBIT C 9 <br /> <br />