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and those are not people that we’re interested in dealing with.My understanding is that there are approximately 300 interested people that have prior relationships with Kalani Honua that would like an opportunity to become part of the company, to live there, part or full time, to provide lodging for guests of Kalani Honua, to take a maintenance and caretaker and stewardship role in this community to teach educational, wellness and cultural activities that perpetuate the goals of Kalani Honua. Mr. Koob, correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s as I understand the number. Mr. Squassoni is here because he is somebody that has put his money down; and his perspective I think will tell a lot as to what someone who puts their money down expects both in terms of benefits and burdens. And I think that I would suggest that it would be a good time to hear from him; and then I can try and answer any more questions that may arise; or we can continue with this discussion, if that’s okay with you, Mr. Chairman. GRAHAM: Yes, certainly, that’s okay. SQUASSONI: Thank you. I was smiling as you were discussing the fact that lawyers would disagree on whether or not it’s a good investment. I spoke to two, one of whom is a friend of long-standing who is very conservative and she wouldn’t even talk to me about it. She recommended someone else who thought it was a very, very cool idea. This is not an investment in property. I mean that’s very clear. I mean, you know, I read the documents. I am investing in Kalani because I believe in Kalani. The community not only offers a very rich communal experience but thousands of people come through there every year. I mean I’m a certified massage therapist. I am a yoga instructor. I am a project manager and a facilitator. And I had been, as I was winding up a computer career in Washington, D. C. I was looking for some place to be able to use all my skills in a community. And when I visited Kalani and found out about Kalani Kai, I thought this was perfect. I would dearly hope that at some point in the future if I ended my relationship with Kalani Kai I might get my money back, but that’s not the point to this. I would happily loose part of my investment or all of my investment for what I’m getting back over the years in terms of relating with people. I don’t know how much more I can say. You know, it’s very clear, and we make it very clear. When I talk to people about Kalani Kai, I make it very clear that this is not like buying a piece of land and building a house and then being able to sell it later, that this is becoming part of a community, and this is healthy to make this part of the community more stable, more sustainable, and it is about stewardship. It is about living on a piece of 94 acres and keeping part of it jungle, of preserving the native plants, of having orchards and having fruit orchards and stewardship. That’s what people come to Hawaii for, is to become a part of what is here, not just to plunk down in someone’s space. GRAHAM: Thank you. STRAUSS: I wanted to follow-up on one point Mr. Squassoni made, and that has to do with the burdens that are being taken on and committed to. It’s not just that he is a massage therapist and yoga teacher but as part of this arrangement, as part of his commitment, as part of his membership, he uses those skills for the benefit of the people that are visiting Kalani Honua. Mr. Yuen, you know, expressed concern that people are buying a piece of land or buying a piece of property. I represent an owner of the Pacific Building downtown, that’s where Bear’s Coffee is, he’s from India. The Catholoic Church owns that land. He has no interest in the land by EXHIBIT C 8