2022_04_19 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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TN: Wait, wait, wait… You have to let me speak because in other words what other options besides boulders that you could look into other than the boulders and 24-hour security when it’s needed or, you know, 12-hour security when it’s needed, or 6-hour security when it’s needed. I mean you have to look at other options than boulders. RM: OK, you… Other options cost money – are you willing to put the monies for that? TN: You, ah, we pay our taxes. We pay our taxes… RM: Not, not… TN: That’s where the money comes from and the commercial people put a weight tax when they dump their fill at Puuanahulu so, you know, you need to ask the County what funds you need – you need to put it in your budget so you can have access to these funds in order to have security there cause you can’t blame (unclear) respectful. We malama aina. I’m a gatherer we malama aina – we don’t vandalize. And hunters… RM: Well, unfortunately, you’re right… TN: Hunters have more respect for the land than most people that may be visiting here. RM: We, you’re absolutely correct. TN: Yeah, but we preach – we practice what we preach. We malama aina. RM: Right. You’re absolutely correct but that’s the reason – let’s go back to this first question I asked and Diana asked – what are your guys interpretations of access? And currently, they have an access – they have an access currently. AA: OK. Abraham – District 5. So there’s other – there’s 3 accesses to that area, right, there’s one right on the road, it’s called – the lower section of Aloha Forest Reserve and you can – there’s a hunting trail that you can access if you’re a hunter, a stalker, or like a hiker then you can access there but my main thing is for and I brought this up with forestry too, is people with dogs – that hunt with dogs – you cannot let your dogs out or even on leash and they slip out of your hand and they gonna get out – they gonna get out into the highway and get run over and now you lost one of your dogs – they hit – you gotta pay damages to somebody’s car because of some kind of slippage. Now, above you guys transfer station there’s a 25-mile marker that DOFAW has an access there too – that one – that road also – that little driveway also is not far enough off the road. Now the access point at the Volcano Transfer Station – it goes back I would say easy 600 yards maybe a little further I would say – and that’s more than sufficient enough to eliminate any accidents of your of hunters letting their dogs out and ending up out on the street – that’s kind of the real reason why we’re pushing the access for that Volcano Transfer Station access is safety for the hunters, for the animals and for the public too, because even if you band somebody’s dog you going try divert ‘em and you know you going bang somebody else’s car and then, you know, so, that’s why vehicular access to that road is, I say is very strong, and I talked to DOFAW about the other – cutting in the other access points and they’re saying, oh, we need to do an EIS and all these different steps that they need to do where your guys access point is 10