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Hawaii Fire Commission <br />Regular Session Minutes <br />April 13, 2022 <br />Page 6 <br />Commissioner Paleka left the meeting at 12:10 p.m. <br />The Meeting reconvened at 12:40 p.m. <br />Financial recommendations: It is recommended that HFD develop budgeting <br />benchmarks to assist county management's understanding of budget requests. <br />Chief Todd says they are actively working on this, but stated that they need to do a <br />better job. Long-term goal is to be able to get into the budget, figure out where they <br />are, what it costs to maintain equipment, apparatus, stations and costs for training. <br />With more funding and staffing, they will start making progress on this. <br />HFD's funding was compared to other municipals serving communities of similar <br />size. They are the only department that is fire, EMS and ocean safety. In comparison <br />to Tacoma, similarities include full time positions, fire positions, EMS positions, and <br />the population. If you look at the budget, differences include their overall budget was <br />about $36 million more, fire budget was $29.5 million more, they have twice the <br />administrative staff to do the same amount of work and they run less fire stations. <br />Their county spends 30% of their budget towards fire and EMS services; our county <br />spends a little over 10% for fire, EMS and ocean safety services. In comparison to <br />Kauai, their county funds 12% of their budget just towards fire services. In <br />comparison to the police department, their budget is $72 million and its $30 million <br />for fire services. Chief Todd stated there's a slight disparity there. His goal is to bring <br />this to the public view. To change things, they asked for a business manager <br />position and clerical positions, they need the administrative staff to make a <br />difference. Over the last 2 years, HFD will have close to $7 million worth of donated <br />items from the Sayre Foundation. <br />Chair Kosaki stated in regards to the wish list, personnel should be asking for things <br />they need, rather than what is wanted. Chief Todd says the goal is for the <br />department to be able to fund all normal operations without having to rely on charity <br />to fund it. He believes expansion of the mission is something the Sayre's Foundation <br />could work on, like new technology, focus more on volunteers or other programs like <br />the junior lifeguard program and other community programs. Chair Kosaki <br />mentioned that the Sayre's Foundation has $20-$30 thousand in their bank for the <br />junior lifeguard program. Chief Todd stated that HFD is not doing the junior lifeguard <br />program this year because it was pushed too far back due to COVID, but the <br />program should be back next year. <br />Deployment recommendation: It is recommended that HFD evaluate their volunteer <br />program to enhance the incentive for participation, develop organizational structure <br />and support roles, and invest into volunteer infrastructure and training. Currently <br />they have only 2 paid positions for 150 volunteers to help them with training and <br />everything else. There has been some discussion about having volunteer support <br />personnel, not just volunteer firefighters. Mr. Benner stated that the volunteer <br />firefighters are valued and they need to be formally fit into in the organizational chart. <br />