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roughly proportional, which is what Maija was telling you about. So just by way of an example, <br /> if you were doing something that would, you know, and you don't really have approvals that <br /> smell exactly like this, but if you were doing something that was going to create an office <br /> building, there would be no relationship to a condition relating to a school, so it would be <br /> inappropriate to condition an office building approval on, you know, the construction of a school <br /> because office buildings don't create the need for more students, right? There might be traffic <br /> impacts or density or, you know, all kinds of other things that an office building would create an <br /> impact for, but it wouldn't create an impact needing more students. On the other hand if you <br /> were doing an approval of a thousand lot subdivision, obviously, that does create a need for, you <br /> know, a school because a subdivision like that presumably would create a lot more families, <br /> which would create a lot more students, which would create a need for a school. And then, so <br /> that's the relationship part; the impact that's created by the actual approval that you are looking <br /> at needs to be related to the condition that you are imposing. And then on the proportionality <br /> side, again, the subdivision approval if you were doing a four-lot subdivision, it would be <br /> inappropriate because it would be, it would not be proportional to ask for the construction of an <br /> entire school because presumably four lots doesn't create that much need; a 1,000-lot subdivision <br /> by all means, that might make enough students to need a whole new school or at least a large <br /> contribution to a school. So, anyway,just wanted to give you by way of background. When you <br /> are looking at your conditions, you want to ask yourself: Is the impact created by this approval <br /> going to be rationally related to the impact that we are looking at; and is the amount of the thing <br /> that we are doing proportional? So,just wanted to offer that up as a background rule for you. <br /> VITOUSEK: Thank you. Maija, you have your hand up? <br /> JACKSON: Yes, I have that map available, if you would like to see it. <br /> VITOUSEK: The sewer map? <br /> JACKSON: Yes <br /> VITOUSEK: Please. <br /> JACKSON: —let me go ahead and share my screen. Can you see this map? This is the subject <br /> property where the hand is located. This is Queen Kalama Avenue, Alii Drive, and then <br /> Naniloa Street. So there is a sewer line coming down the street to the east, and then it ends right <br /> about here in Queen Kalama. So they could extend through here and down into their project or <br /> possibly bring this line up through their proposed roadway to the project. <br /> VITOUSEK: And where does it end on the south side? <br /> JACKSON: Oops, sorry, I'm getting all these alerts. You said where does it end on the south <br /> side; it ends right at this point here on Alii Drive. <br /> VITOUSEK: Sorry, the other side where there is a gap. Where is the, where is the north side of <br /> the gap to the south going down Alii Drive? <br /> 14 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br />