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acres would make it more productive in Ag than it is currently. In the background report it seems like its being currently used as pasture land; and we all know that we generally send off the cattle to be fattened up in the mainland because we just cant afford to raise them here. So I, this might make it actually, in my mind, more productive agriculturally, at least during these economic conditions. And for those reasons I would speak in favor of the motion. ALAMEDA:All right. All right, fellow Commissioners, Im ready to wrap up this discussion, unless you guys have any more burning comments. Go ahead, Commissioner Iwashita, and then Commissioner Siracusa. IWASHITA:I dont know if its a burning concern, but I just wanted to make a final point. And that is that, going back to the community development plan, and my belief that that really should be the process that the County goes through in the next couple of years, as it applies to this application. And the intent expressed by the applicant and the families, I guess, whatitintendstodointhenext10years,Idontseethatdenyingthisapplicationatthistime would impair, and waiting for the community development plan to be completed, would impair any of the familys intent. And so that enlarged measure Im weighing as a factor that I will be voting against the motion. ALAMEDA:Thank you, Commissioner Iwashita. Commissioner Siracusa? SIRACUSA:Well, I just wanted to point out to Mr., Commissioner Watanabe that right now it could be that catalyst down, but you certainly need larger acreage than 3 acres to make something more productive than just having a family cow. On the other hand, in the future, for the sustainability of this island, if God forbid we should get cut off from the rest of the world for a while, being able to grow our own food is crucial, is critical really. And I also wanted to point out that not all livestock are cows. You know, I know people who make a very nice living with just a few Arabian horses which can sell, theyre very pricey, theyre very pricy. And so you can have Ag, you know, on pasture land thats productive; and 3 acre lots really dont cut it for that. If somebody was growing orchids on benches, yeah, you know, you can do that on a quarter of an acre and make a nice amount of money. But right now you need to make at least $2,000, I believe, in order to qualify for the agricultural exemption. And I dont think that with pasture you could do that on 3 acres. So just to discuss the agricultural, you know, underpinnings of this whole thing -. ALAMEDA:Point taken. Fellow Commissioners? Mr. Torigoe, seeing that theres no further discussion, should we invite the applicant back to hear the vote or could he sit there? TORIGOE:He could sit there. ALAMEDA:Okay. Seeing that theres no further discussion, we had a motion, it was seconded. Staff? DARROW:Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioner Graham? GRAHAM:Aye. 21EXHIBIT A