2022-05-05 Windward Exh C (Item 3 County Council Initiated PL-CCI-2022-001)

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electrical service out to the charging locations. There are things that you would have to put in, like the concrete barriers, labor is a highly variable so you're looking probably anywhere from $20,000.00 to $120,000.00. Noel maybe you have better numbers on that, depending on all those different variables with the respect to the site. MORIN: Yes, the top figure you mentioned is reasonable for a DC Fast Charger. While the equipment can be around $50,000.00 or so. When you factor in permitting and all the infrastructure that needs to be put in, it could be well over a$100,000.00. This is why I think the Make Ready Program that you mentioned is very much relevant. Now the cost for Level 2, again it really depends on the location and the amount of trenching, and all the infrastructure will have to be brought from the building to the actual location. So, costs will vary based on that. But the actual equipment itself the commercial Level 2 charger they're anywhere from $6,000.00 to $10,000.00 for a unit. I can get something more precise. I've requested that before and share that with this group. But yeah, so if it's a Level 2 you're talking about $10,000 to $20,000 dollars depending on what's already there. In some cases, if you have an existing charging station that just needs to be swapped out that is minimal cost. If you need to trench quite a bit, then that's another situation that would be another consideration. AU: Thank you. Thank you, Noel and Heather for trying to answer that question. It's a moving target like Commissioner Lin said, the cost of materials is so high, but I appreciate you trying to answer that question. Any other questions I know each Commissioner probably has questions. So maybe we can just stick with one Commissioner first so Commissioner Lin, can you go ahead and ask your questions. LIN: Sure, I guess the other question would be that fee that lot owners would charge at each station. I'm very concerned, I guess, in terms of how much they would charge because it relates to how many chargers are available to the public right now that have no cost. And then if you're going to implement in putting installs and chargers that vary in pricing it comes down to well, I know that, perhaps KTA or the County building has a charger that I only pay so much money for. But if I go down to this gas station, I have to pay double that amount. So that comes down to I think there's not one amendment about the fee. So what fee, what is reasonable? KIMBALL: I should respond initially by saying if you guys have other amendments or wording changes that's perfectly acceptable and we can accommodate those. Originally, we had the word reasonable in there and it did make sense with Director's recommendation to take that out because reasonable is not defined anywhere and that could mean different things to different people. The Director's original recommendation had been to set a cap or some other specific amount which I'm also willing to consider and explore. There may be legal issues with that, and the ability for businesses to conduct themselves. So, if that's something that the Commission feels is important to set a cap on it that's definitely something I can research in terms of would we actually have the jurisdiction or authority to apply something like that. In the interim, my reason for just saying okay let's just take reasonable out is that the market should actually drive the prices to be reasonable. Because if you, have it too high nobody's going to go there and utilize that charger. So yeah, that's kind of not a succinct response but, 16 EXHIBIT C