2022-05-05 Windward Exh C (Item 3 County Council Initiated PL-CCI-2022-001)

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thirty (30) years. So is this equipment that we're going to be putting in these parking lots as robust. Because, then that defrays the cost over time of the infrastructure and things like that. So that's one question. KIMBALL: Okay I'll start with that and good on you for being off grid. So, definitely the chargers and their lifespan and their quality have improved significantly since we've started seeing some of these charges go out. In addition to the federal money that Noel mentioned on the slide. A significant portion of that is going to developing in the United States, the manufacturing process both for the batteries and for EV chargers. So, the newer models are definitely more robust and have a longer lifespan than some of the early models. We've got what 4 chargers in front of the Aupuni Center where my office is, none of them work right now. The 4 over by the judiciary building that I think Christian has used none of them are working right now, and these are the older models, and they just weren't as sturdy. One of the really important parts of this bill is that requirement to keep the EV chargers in working order. In addition, there wasn't typically at the early stages the level of service available that is now currently available for these charges. There's a whole employment sector developing around both EV maintenance and charger maintenance that didn't exist before. So, you have both higher quality chargers out there and better ability to maintain them, which should improve the lifespan. I did also want to mention just in respect to one of Dennis's questions about connecting to the grid which still has some fossil fuel tied to it. Because of that efficiency that Noel mentioned even when you're charged the grid and the grid is using fossil fuel, you are reducing emissions by two thirds because of the increased level of efficiency of electric vehicles. So sorry to diverge. I just remember that, and I wanted to make sure I put that out there that it's even if you're tied to the grid, you're still doing good things if you're in an EV. DANIELE: Yeah, great. Thank you, thank you. Just a couple like observations I guess reading all the public testimony on this. Everybody was for this. There was really no one, not for this, and I think as a County, I think as a State, I think, as a Country, we all see where this is heading. There's going to be more and more electric vehicles being in service certainly over the next 5, 10 years. So, I think that being very proactive on this is a very good thing. But the whole repair issue seems to be the other issue that kept cropping up in the public testimony. I think you just address that with newer things coming out, newer models, better equipment, and things like that. So, I would imagine that most folks that have a parking lot with over 100 parking spaces would be able to absorb costs associated big corporations like Target and things like that. Would be able to absorb putting these things in. AU: Excuse me, Commissioner Daniele, can we just stay on track. We're asking questions. DANIELE: Yeah. AU: Yeah, we're just limited to just questions. DANIELE: Okay. Can you please go over the aggregation thing a little bit? KIMBALL: Yeah, so this is one of the provisions- 19 EXHIBIT C