2022-05-05 Windward Exh C (Item 3 County Council Initiated PL-CCI-2022-001)

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BALOG: Yes, it does, thank you for that information. I guess my other thing is the bill seems "—"very good presentation so far, seems very specific to passenger vehicles or personally owned vehicles, and I am wondering about how this will relate to you said there's going to be trucks. I'm assuming there will be commercial vehicle considerations and how that would be addressed. KIMBALL: Yeah, so the market right now there are not plug-in heavy-duty type equipment. There's nothing on the market available for that yet. That is in development. We also have electric vehicle bus or electric bus infrastructure happening. We have 10 electric buses coming in and the appropriate charging to go with them. So, there is a commitment at the County level, at least for mass transit to electrify their transportation. It remains to be seen what kind of charging infrastructure will be required for the heavier duty vehicles. We may see some hydrogen come into that particular area. The hydrogen is less efficient than the battery electric vehicle and as far as the passenger industry the technologies is just so much further ahead with battery electric than it is with hydrogen. That I don't see us switching but you may see some hydrogen come into the heavier duty vehicle market. Noel do you want to contribute at all to that question? MORIN: Yeah, if the question was around trucks? Was it around passenger trucks or heavy- duty trucks like freight trucks? BALOG: I'm going to side of both a little bit because I think they're going to cross over because I think we're also seeing that some of these vehicles will impact businesses and it's going to eventually get better. MORIN: Yeah, so the trucks are coming. The Ford F-150 electric. It's already being launched and there's a heavy demand for that. The Rivian is out and there will be other electric trucks as well, and the charging infrastructure for those trucks are going to be no different from what we're talking about here. So, there'll be very similar to whatever DC fast charger, Level 2 charger that's installed out there, so those will be compatible. For the heavier trucks so tractor trailers and those freight trucks those are coming as well. They are available, and they will require different charging infrastructure. So, whatever is installed, we're talking about this being major fleet like County, for example, or State. They're going to be looking into or that would be part of the package to be able to do that, that type of transportation you would also need the heavy-duty on charging infrastructure. But it would be a different class altogether compared to what we're talking about here. KIMBALL: And I should mention along those lines that there's also development in the agricultural industry for electric farm equipment and USDA is putting fund towards rural infrastructure, charging infrastructure for specifically for farm businesses. As another source of supplying the charging requirements for commercial vehicles. BALOG: Thank you. My only question was actually battery cost, because as Noel mentioned actually maintenance of these vehicles was lower because like you said you haven't replaced your brakes. So, I'm wondering what a battery cost would be because that to me would seem the only thing that might actually be costly. 21 EXHIBIT C