2022-05-05 Windward Exh C (Item 3 County Council Initiated PL-CCI-2022-001)

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MORIN: Yeah, the battery certainly would be one of the most costly, if not the most costly component of the electric car and depending on the vehicle and depending on the size of the battery. It could be substantial. They are rated to last; I mean the warranties are 8 to 10 years. There are electric cars out there with over 100,000 to 200,000 miles on the same battery. To give you a scope for example, the Nissan Leaf, for example, a new battery through the manufacturer is probably anywhere from $6,000.00 to $8,000.00 to get that thing swapped out. It's going to be more with the bigger EVs. So, there is an expectation that they will last a while, and if there is an issue with the batteries to get replaced under warranty and if they're out of warranty then clearly that could be a costly repair. But you think about what you would need to do to overhaul a gas vehicle replacing a transmission, replacing an engine, or something along those lines. I'm not going to say it's comparable,but you know it's going to be a major expense as well. KIMBALL: And I will add again back to federal infrastructure spending the American Jobs Act included 7 billion dollars going to the Department of Energy to look at battery recycling and like I said local US battery development. So, we can improve the recycling market and that should drive down costs of battery replacement. There was a recent study published out of MIT which indicates that the lithium and in EV batteries when it's recycled is actually as good if not better when put into a new battery. So, the possibilities for recycling in the EV battery market are quite high. BALOG: Thank you both I'm done with questions. AU: Thank you, Commissioner Balog for your questions. Commissioner Galimba, you have questions? GALIMBA: Yeah, so I just wanted to ask some more like the process question. So, I just want to understand, so this already has been passed by the County Council once. Is that correct and is now out for recommendation or— KIMBALL: No, the Council, the Council voted to send it to you guys. So, because this is a revision to the Zoning Code Chapter 25, it needs to go through the Planning Commissions and, so our vote was to refer it to the Commissions. That actually provides an opportunity to briefly discuss why we're putting it in Chapter 25, and the reason for that is the HRS gave us the ability to adopt an ordinance to enforce these rules that they had already established. By putting it into Chapter 25, the Zoning Code there's already enforcement, a whole enforcement mechanism, Notice of Violations through the Director, fines, and whatnot that's established. And so, we don't have to reinvent the wheel and create a whole other enforcement mechanism. We're just kind of piggybacking on the enforcement mechanism that already lives in the Zoning Code and that's why the decision was made to put it into this chapter. GALIMBA: So, follow up question that I had. So, this Commission or this department is the only department that's being asked for recommendations then that goes to the County Council. Is that correct? 22 EXHIBIT C