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KAY: So, it's somewhat difficult to say I don't think, I know we as a department haven't gone <br /> out and done an analysis of parking facilities island wide. So, that's why the bill itself has <br /> provisions for new parking areas, existing parking areas that need to come in for Plan Approval, <br /> and then existing parking areas that don't have a requirement to come in for Plan Approval. So <br /> those parking areas at like Prince Kuhio Plaza or Target or Walmart those areas largely already <br /> have those chargers and that infrastructure in place. I'm assuming largely because of the change <br /> in law back in 2012. And so just to give you an example of a new facility or an existing facility <br /> that needs to come in for Plan Approval. <br /> Our Zoning Code says for commercial uses it's one parking stall for every 300 square feet of <br /> gross floor area within the structure. So, you're looking at that 50-parking stall trigger would be <br /> at about 15,000 square feet of gross floor area within the structure. So that kind of give you an <br /> idea of size wise. So, yeah, it's a roundabout way of saying we don't know exactly how it's <br /> going to impact, other than to say that this at least provide some guidance on what to do in those <br /> situations where it's new existing with the possibility or the kind of the catch of the trigger at <br /> Plan Approval and then for those that don't need to come in for Plan Approval. So, for instance <br /> Prince Kuhio Plaza. They've already gotten Plan Approval when they built the original mall, the <br /> existing mall. So, all that parking that was required was based on the PA that was required then. <br /> The only other time they'd have to come back in for Plan Approval would be if they were <br /> building additional structures. So, when they built the additional kind of structures, where <br /> Verizon is and Genki Sushi is and things like that,they had to come back in for Plan Approval, <br /> which then we would assess them for other stalls. In other situations where the structure is <br /> already built there's going to be no more expansion that's those situations where if there's an <br /> existing facility, but no requirement to come back in for Plan Approval that either that a lot <br /> owner would have to proactively come into compliance with the HRS or it would be done on a <br /> complaint basis. So, in terms of enforcement of the provisions of the bill that's kind of the hooks <br /> where we would apply it. <br /> LIN: Yeah, thank you Christian because my concern would be like if we implement this and <br /> there's not that many parking lots that have that requirement, you might not actually increase the <br /> availability of charging stations on the island. Like if you're down in Pahala how many places in <br /> Pahala have more than 50 to 100 parking stalls or if you're up in Kohala, Kapa`au or whatever <br /> that location is. You're not going to have that many parking stalls up there either. So, how do <br /> we think about that, when we're looking at this bill because we couldn't be looking at existing <br /> parking lots like KTA or Target or Safeway. But in smaller areas where you only have like 10 <br /> parking stalls, but you don't have any charges in that location, what do you do then. <br /> KAY: I mean so —I'm sorry go ahead. <br /> KIMBALL: I was going to say, thank you Dennis your kind of just nailed it on the head as one <br /> of the reasons why we wanted to reduce that number is because we don't have the same volume <br /> of very large parking lot as they may be doing in Honolulu. I will also say that I did reach out to <br /> Parks and Recreation before I introduced this bill to get a sense of how many areas that they <br /> 26 <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />