2022-05-05 Windward Exh C (Item 3 County Council Initiated PL-CCI-2022-001)

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KIMBALL: Yeah, they have been pretty extensive in terms of us understanding what their capacities are with their ability is to help support the commercial side with either subsidies or rebates, or you know the Make Ready Program as mentioned. I will also just say that, as part of farming this out, I did share it with all what we have five Chambers of Commerce on Hawaii Island. I only received feedback from the Japanese Chambers of Commerce which supported the bill from the standpoint of where it enforced the HRS. They felt like the expansion beyond the HRS, which is that stepped up increased chargers per unit. They did not support that. So, they support the basic underlying bill, but they did not accept our expansion. Just to from a legal standpoint, the Council does have the legal authority to be more preemptive than HRS, so we are legally allowed to do that with new infrastructure, and new laws. The aggregation provision that's a privilege provided by the HRS, and the Council does not have authority to take away a privilege, and that is why we had to eliminate that one statement from the bill and add that exemption. So, it went a little bit beyond what you were asking, but just to directly answer the questions that we have had quite a bit of involvement and Jen Zelko would have been here today, but she had a commitment at another meeting. AU: Okay, well, thank you for that. Moving forward I think that would be a huge question on where HELCO stands on this. So, Commissioners, if you guys have no further questions. I'm sure we all have things that we want to discuss so before we get into the discussion if there are no more questions. I'm ready to entertain a motion. Well, first let's go well actually I'm going to make the motion. I would like to make a motion, but I want to ask all my fellow Commissioners do you have any more questions for staff or for Councilwoman Kimball or Noel? Go ahead Commissioner Daniele. DANIELE: Yeah, one quick question. This is a little bit more technical or when you get up to let's say 8 stalls or 8 plugs. Is it one charging station per stall or can there be one charging station servicing multiple stalls? KIMBALL: So, actually the way it's been defined in the revisions, so this was not in the original bill it was an area where there was a lack of clarity. It is one stall per plug. Now a charger may have multiple plugs. So, you may have a scenario where we have a charger that has 4 plugs and those have got to be able to go out to 4 different stalls. So, it's not based on the charger but it's actually on the plugs and that was a revision we made for clarity. I've been working on this legislation for probably about nine months it's like birthing a child. And when you're so close to something everything's crystal clear to you, but then you have other people read it, then all of a sudden, it's like oh they don't understand that in the same way that I do. So that was one of the revisions suggested by the Planning Department that we were happy to accommodate to clarify. DANIELE: Thank you. AU: Okay, Commissioner Lin, you have a question? LIN: Yeah, I have one question for the Planning Department. So, how many parking lots would be affected if we implement this bill? How does that improve the disparity of charging stations across the island? 25 EXHIBIT C