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YUEN:No the Judd Trail alignment is still there and is still useable in the area. The reason for not focusing on it. I thought we had determined that it was not on the property? HAYASHI:We did receive a letter from Stephen Menezes who is the applicants representative. And that is, no its a memo from Stephen Menezes. Its a memo date February 9, 2006 and basically enclosing the, a letter from Joseph Kennedy of Archaeological Consultants of the Pacific dated February 2, 2006. And if you look at the last sentence, I believe all of you have a copy of that, it does state here that the and Ill read it, Subsequent field checks with State DLNR personnel has determined that a portion of the trail is just within the southern boundary and is within the area approved for preservation with site 8027 and 2828 and is therefore protected by it. And look sincerely. But there are no maps, map attached to that. So I really dont know the status of whether the Judd Trail is, a portion of Judd Trail is in fact in the property or its not in the property. I did do a physical check of the property and it indicated that if this were the southern end of the property there is a pin at this location. Then there seems to be a area that is lower than the elevation of the subject property. And it seems like its perhaps where the Judd Trail is but Im not the expert so. You know until survey is done you know I think that was one of the responsibilities of DLNR to identify where the Judd Trail is, the exact location. YUEN:Given that we, we should probably put in a condition that says something like public access consistent with requirements of the Department of Land and Natural Resources shall be allowed over the portion over any portion of Judd Trail lying within the subject property. GRAHAM:Commissioner Iwashita? IWASHITA:I guess I have a thought that maybe the owner can clarify this because if the legal description of the property along, that adjoins Judd Trail basically says that the calls are along the trail then it would seem clear that the trail wherever its located right? And I dont know if theres a modern survey or not. But if the call is along the trail then there seems to me there would have been a modern done. I dont know maybe Mr. Smith-? GRAHAM:Mr. Smith if you and Mr. Lau would like to come forward and respond to the question thats fine. SMITH:Yes there is pins showing property line and where the Judd Trail is. On my property from Alii Drive all the way through my property it has property pins and it has where the Judd Trail is. GRAHAM:Thankyouisthatallyouneeded? IWASHITA:No.SoitsyourunderstandingMr.Smiththatthepinswherevertheyre located show the boundary. On one side of the pin is your property on the other side of the pin is theJuddTrailisthatyourunderstanding? EXHIBIT 18