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GRAHAM:It€s okay with me. <br />WATANABE:I think that might be simpler. <br />GRAHAM:Fine. Mr. Galdones is this all okay with you? <br />GALDONES:Thank you Mr. Chair. I haven€t said much about this because reading the <br />background report and the recommendations I was prepared to take action on this. But because <br />my fellow Commissioners want, they have some certain concerns that they would like to take <br />care of I€m willing to go along with the motion that is before us. But I think along with that <br />motion we should also include what are we looking for. So we should that include that in the <br />motion so that we all know what we are voting and what we are expecting out of the motion. <br />GRAHAM:Fine. So let€s do it, is that fine we€ll do it that way? <br />IWASHITA:I will defer to initially to Commissioner Springer to set forth what that is <br />specifically. <br />GRAHAM:Commissioner Springer would you please? <br />SPRINGER:I look to Mr. Torigoe cause I suspect I may be walking a fine line between <br />testifying and making a request of the applicant. But fundamentally I would like to see a <br />discussion of this parcel within the context of the Kaumalumalu Ahupuaa and also its <br />relationship to, if any, to the Keolanahihi and Keakealaniwahine complexes. And also any <br />identified traditional and customary practices whether past or ongoing. And I believe that the <br />State Historic Preservation Officer should be able to help with this given the close proximity to <br />the historic park situated on Kamoa Point and also the Judd Trail not only as it appears on the <br />subject parcel but what any potential public access upon that or over it would be connecting the <br />users to. We know that it went from the ocean until it was terminated by the 1859 Mauna Loa <br />flow. So maybe DLNR can help with ownership issues also that we asked about. Thank you. <br />GRAHAM:Thank you Commissioner Springer. Commissioner McCall did you have <br />anything else beyond that that you wanted included? <br />MCCALL:That certainly more than covers what I€m hoping for. <br />GRAHAM:Commissioner Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:I just want to make sure that Mr. Lau and the applicant understands <br />everything.IhavesomesenseofitbutisthatacceptabletoyouwhatCommissionerSpringer <br />stated? <br />LAU:I may have to call her for the spelling of those two complexes but <br />otherwiseIgenerallyunderstandwhatshe€slookingforandwewillcomply. <br />EXHIBIT <br />23 <br /> <br />